Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

Villain is 23/17/2. he is relatively solid but capable of moves and mixing up his play. i wasn't overly active but was playing something like 22/18 and was pretty aggro. we have a bit of history but i haven't played w/ him in ages.

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Button ($232.55)
SB ($117.95)
Hero ($177.05)
UTG ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, Button calls $12.

Flop: ($32.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $78</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ????

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

1. Shove
2. Get called by AKdd
3. Spike 6
4. Profit

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

Shove and hit, he has an overpair here. There is also always the chance he can laydown a hand like 9s/10s/Js here as well if you are both decent, but once he raises I doubt he does. You have good equity here obv, so I think this is a no-brainer shove. Why would you fold here?

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

shove

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

Mmm.. the crappy thing is the board is paired so he's not giving credit for a set. I think your fold equity is very low unless he's making a move. Still you're in okay shape against an OP so shove it is.

You maybe could've just CRAI on the flop to get more fold equity.

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

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Shove and hit, he has an overpair here. There is also always the chance he can laydown a hand like 9s/10s/Js here as well if you are both decent, but once he raises I doubt he does. You have good equity here obv, so I think this is a no-brainer shove. Why would you fold here?

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he is getting 3.3 to 1 on the call and most marginal to decent standard ssnl players have a pretty scary range here.

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

you bet the flop like you were supposed to, now fold like you're supposed to

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

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Shove and hit, he has an overpair here. There is also always the chance he can laydown a hand like 9s/10s/Js here as well if you are both decent, but once he raises I doubt he does. You have good equity here obv, so I think this is a no-brainer shove. Why would you fold here?

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he is getting 3.3 to 1 on the call and most marginal to decent standard ssnl players have a pretty scary range here.

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As I said, I dont think he folds here but I was just saying you MAY have sort of FE here, although not very much at all.

As someone said previously, CRAI would probably be better here instead of leading. It gives him the chance to bluff or 'value' some of his hands, and puts him in a really tough spot, giving you more FE that b3b in addition to the obvious hand equity you already have.

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

The vast majority of your value with combo draws comes from fold equity. I think you have very very little fold equity in this spot. He'll be getting great odds on his money, it's a steal situation and he probably knows you have a wide 3-betting range. The paired board also hurts your combo's equity as well. You're a 3:2 dog at best and 2:1 often.

Due to minimal FE, I fold.

Re: Combo Draw 180 bbs deep in 3bet pot.
 

Uh no way you can fold here, you have way more fold equity than you think, embrace the variance and shove.