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RapidEvolution 11-10-2007 10:39 PM

25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
Villain is 20/4/3.5 over 250 hands
I've been running 14/9 so far



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 ($25.85)
CO ($5.90)
Button ($36.65)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($27.70)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($24.45)</font>
UTG ($29.85)
UTG+1 ($8.85)
MP1 ($24.35)
MP2 ($6.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.1</font>, BB calls $1.75, MP2 calls $1.50.

I've got an SPR of 4 and an overpair! Commitment seems fine barring some weird activity or a freaky flop (or ace high flop)

Flop: ($6.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $11.5</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?
</font>

I'm starting to let decisions like this get made by the AF (not sure this is a good idea). On what little info I've got, villain could be on a diamond draw, have a funky pair/draw hand like AdJd/KdJd, and sets. Is shoving standard here? Is this is fold if villain is passive or much tighter? Comments on preflop raise-sizing are also welcome.

CaptVimes 11-10-2007 11:08 PM

Re: 25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
Well, with his stats his range preflop is probably 99+ and AK. The fact that he didn't repop pre leads me think AA is less likely than the rest. Calling is going to accomplish nothing and you will still be committed to the pot. Villain is also somewhat aggro post flop. I think I shove but hate myself when he shows me his set of J's.

Board: 5d 4d Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.351% 53.36% 01.99% 12679 472.50 { KcKs }
Hand 1: 44.649% 42.66% 01.99% 10136 472.50 { TT+, AKs }

Steelerman 11-10-2007 11:18 PM

Re: 25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
Ugh. Flop raises at NL25 just always seem to mean business. I don't think you'd give up much at this level if you always folded 1 pair to flop aggression. BUT, when you have some kind of indication that they'll raise with flush draws, top pair, etc. then you gotta let it roll. This villain is relatively aggro so I probably push. But like CV said, we're going to see JJ alot.

AllTheCheese 11-10-2007 11:24 PM

Re: 25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
Against JJ+, AdKd, and AdQd we have like 43% equity. So, if you think this range is fair, shoving is good.

RapidEvolution 11-11-2007 12:02 AM

Re: 25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
I didn't even consider QQ in all this. lol

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

11,880 games 0.005 secs 2,376,000 games/sec

Board: 5d 4d Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.444% 59.44% 00.00% 7062 0.00 { KcKs }
Hand 1: 40.556% 40.56% 00.00% 4818 0.00 { QQ-JJ, AdKd, AdQd, AdJd }

AdJd may be a stretch, but QQ could be here.

SABR42 11-11-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
Shove.

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oakrdrzfan 11-11-2007 02:40 AM

Re: 25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
I shove. SPR is in range and dont give the flush draws a free ride.

oxiej 11-11-2007 07:10 AM

Re: 25NL: Yet another KK hand
 
why canīt villain just play his 55, 44 like this? that way whe have like 50% equity so a shove would be a good play i geuss.


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