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Remoh007 06-06-2007 02:36 PM

3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
BB: 65,3/18,2/1,09/45,71/970 (VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands)

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

cap preflop?
fold flop?
call flop, raise turn?
calldown?
take a freecard on the turn and call any river?

OR

well played *g*

THX a lot

Liberintu 06-06-2007 02:44 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
They have a forum for this.

BigBadBabar 06-06-2007 03:05 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
fold the flop and it's fine
capping pf is spew
putting any money in postflop is spew

Clamper13 06-06-2007 03:26 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
Disclaimer: I truly suck at limit (and don't fare much better at NL)so feel free to shred or ignore any or all of my analysis.

It sure looks like you are way behind. There is a large range of holdings that beat you.

His pre-flop re-raise tells me that he's fairly strong, with PP (likely higher than yours)or ace suited with a high card. Capping there will not induce a fold. I'd rather see a cheap flop with low pocket pairs.

You didn't improve on the flop. His bet there could be a semi-bluff, but I would have folded right there. When he calls your raise, it tells me that he really likes his chances.

His check-raise on the turn is a clear indication that you are beat. You might river bottom set, but it sure looks like a loser if you do.

Well timed aggression is key to winning, but in this case I think you need to ait for a better spot.

reutel 06-06-2007 06:19 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
I will not bet the turn. Giving a freecard is not so bad here, and usually you are behind. He can have some hand like QJ Qk since he is soo loose aggressive. You have to fold to a raise, because you also have to pay a river bet.

Niediam 06-06-2007 07:03 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
Wait for the turn to raise. Much more likely then villian will fold.

Niediam 06-06-2007 07:07 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
[ QUOTE ]
fold the flop and it's fine
capping pf is spew
putting any money in postflop is spew

[/ QUOTE ]

Whoa weaktight city. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

dafreak 06-06-2007 07:20 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
reminds me of the time i was in a pot with a lag who had pocket 4's against my A's. Capped, preflop, flop, turn and he hits a 4 on the river, to take down a huge kill pot.


Your entire line is screams ugliness.

Ricks 06-06-2007 10:02 PM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wait for the turn to raise. Much more likely then villian will fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

That would be the plan but I would c/f to the ace hitting.

BigBadBabar 06-07-2007 01:34 AM

Re: 3/6 SH problem with pocket 33
 
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fold the flop and it's fine
capping pf is spew
putting any money in postflop is spew


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Whoa weaktight city.



i don't think so, i think rio against a lag here is horrible. maybe against a tag who will fold his ui overs on the turn. if we're going to do this against a lag i think call, call, call is best if he will 3barrel when behind. there's no way to know if we're ahead or behind so raising any postflop doesn't seem right.


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