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The Dude 08-11-2007 05:47 AM

Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
Here's one that I can't believe I didn't post before. And for the nit out there, this hand actually happened at Commerce.

Commerce 40-80, 6 handed. UTG is tight, aggressive, and good. In fact, quite good. In two days of playing with him I haven't seen him miss value, get out of line, or even be that straightforward. Hijack is loose and bad, and everyone knows it. He coldcalls and peels like it's his favorite thing to do.

Preflop:
UTG raises, hijack coldcalls, folded to The Dude who calls from the SB w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. BB folds.

Flop: (7 SBs) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 Players)</font>
The Dude checks, UTG bets, hijack calls, The Dude raises. UTG calls, hijack folds.

Turn: (6 BBs) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 Players)</font>
The Dude bets, hijack raises, The Dude calls.

River: (10 BBs) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 Players)</font>
The Dude checks.

Comments?

cowboy billy 08-11-2007 05:59 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
ronkadonk river

blackasthma 08-11-2007 06:15 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
The flop play is terrible. If UTG is so good, you think he's calling your raise with trash??? Lead the flop and maybe you score an uncontested pot. Ya, you cannot bet the river here, either, w/ace high - that would be very stupid...

The Dude 08-11-2007 06:19 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
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The flop play is terrible. If UTG is so good, you think he's calling your raise with trash???

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Huh?

brick 08-11-2007 07:07 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
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blackasthma 08-11-2007 07:34 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
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The flop play is terrible. If UTG is so good, you think he's calling your raise with trash???

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Huh?

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You jammed this pot on the flop before you knew what UTG has. Once he calls your raise, you know he has at least AQ and you are behind. Given your flop play, I would've checked this turn card anticipating the UTG raise. This was too expensive a chase for you to come up empty handed...

Justin A 08-11-2007 07:38 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
You have hijack raising the turn but I think you meant utg?

Check fold river is good. However I don't think that's what you're asking about. The turn pretty much depends on what he thinks of you. If he knows you're thinking enough to 3bet this turn without a big hand, then what you did is fine. If he just thinks of you as a random TAG, then 3 betting seems great because you can get him to fold 88-JJ and maybe even a Q.

KitCloudkicker 08-11-2007 10:15 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
flop and turn are standard. river is C/F.

KitCloudkicker 08-11-2007 10:17 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
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You are now ignoring this user. You will no longer see the body of any of their posts.

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gaming_mouse 08-11-2007 11:11 AM

Re: Fun w/ Flush Draw
 
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You have hijack raising the turn but I think you meant utg

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I'm not sure about this.... otherwise I can't make sense of his "this actually happened at Commerce" remark. I am guessing turn raiser was in fact the super fish guy, and Dude c/c on river and won??


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