Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   Full Ring (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=80)
-   -   (10NL) QQ, A flop, family pot (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=416228)

Ampelmann 05-31-2007 05:33 AM

(10NL) QQ, A flop, family pot
 
New to the table, no reads. Do you c-bet here? If so, how much (I usually c-bet between 3/4 and the pot).

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $10
UTG+1: $5.35
MP1: $12.05
MP2: $3.20
CO: $5.85
Hero: $9.85
SB: $11.80
BB: $8.25

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.9</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3.75, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero pukes and ...

Larude 05-31-2007 05:53 AM

Re: (10NL) QQ, A flop, family pot
 
You don't need to worry about UTG+1 he probably called with a small pair. CO could also be raising a broad range of hands. The coldcall of the BB is suspicious though, he could just be calling with AK or AQ. I think the merits of checking are highest, you don't loose any weaker hands + you have 2 outs to what probably is the nuts and if a heart comes you have a redraw to a hand that still could be the best. By betting out you take the pot if nobody has an ace, but you force weaker hands out + you risk beiing reraised by a FD or an ace and then you probably have to fold. The question is is it worth to bet here to protect against potential FD's?

JoseRijo 05-31-2007 08:44 AM

Re: (10NL) QQ, A flop, family pot
 
Normally, you have to c-bet here. But with 3 callers, I'd probably chicken out.

If you're going to bet, I think $1.50 would be fine. It looks like you're begging for a call.

SABR42 05-31-2007 08:53 AM

Re: (10NL) QQ, A flop, family pot
 
Really easy check.

_Apollo_ 05-31-2007 09:25 AM

Re: (10NL) QQ, A flop, family pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
Normally, you have to c-bet here. But with 3 callers, I'd probably chicken out.

If you're going to bet, I think $1.50 would be fine. It looks like you're begging for a call.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you cbet, you want to make a standard cbet.
I never ever make a 1.5$ cbet into a 4$ pot, not with the nuts and not with a missed flop.

This is a very good flop to cbet in a headsup or 3-way situation because people very often put you on an ace when you raise preflop (and they are not likely to have hit this flop) but in a 4-way pot I'd like to see some PT stats to determine a raise or check behind.

I go for the check behind most of the times in a multiway pot like this though.
(edit:I thought this was 50NL. At 10NL I check this behind)


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:54 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.