Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
 

www.clububt.com offers online tournamant blackjack and poker (only tournaments). Prizes are cash and prizes. Money isn't wagered...rather, it's collected as a monthly membership fee. They claim to be legal in 38 states, plus D.C. They withhold taxes on WINNINGS.

Is this a model for our future play?

From their site:

Club UBT is the future of online play. It is an exciting new way to play poker tournaments and Elimination Blackjack tournaments online without risking a penny! It's fun, it's legal, it's EASY. Members pay a low monthly fee of $19.95 (or less!) and are awarded many perks and benefits:

Entry into over 1,000 cash-and-prize tourneys
Subscription to All In magazine
Subscription to the Las Vegas Advisor
Monthly newsletter
Tips from pros like Phil Hellmuth, Johnny Chan, Annie Duke, etc.
$1,000s in Las Vegas coupons
Live chat support

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Eligible States:

Alaska
Arizona
California
Colorado
Connecticut
D.C.
Delaware
Florida
Hawaii
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Massachusetts
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
 

Similar B&M concept for poker.

Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
 

This is what for poker I have been advocating all along, use the UIGEA to our advantage.
This model fits the 'skill' games model.
I notice they are even in the United States!

obg

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This is what for poker I have been advocating all along, use the UIGEA to our advantage.
This model fits the 'skill' games model.
I notice they are even in the United States!

obg

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True, they can offer a game online. Unfortunately, they don't permit actual betting. Rather, they charge a monthly fee, from which the prizes come. I don't imagine any of us can make a living from any of the "legal" games the way they're structured today. After all, the fish at today's games lose more than $19.95/mo.

It appears we need legislation to get what we want...games where real money moves around.

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This is what for poker I have been advocating all along, use the UIGEA to our advantage.
This model fits the 'skill' games model.
I notice they are even in the United States!

obg

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True, they can offer a game online. Unfortunately, they don't permit actual betting. Rather, they charge a monthly fee, from which the prizes come. I don't imagine any of us can make a living from any of the "legal" games the way they're structured today. After all, the fish at today's games lose more than $19.95/mo.

It appears we need legislation to get what we want...games where real money moves around.

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Yes, but if it catches on, it will make the online poker experience more familiar to more people. Sooner or they will want to cross over to "real poker", which will keep the aquarium stocked and increase our position politically -- I hope.

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Yes, but if it catches on, it will make the online poker experience more familiar to more people. Sooner or they will want to cross over to "real poker", which will keep the aquarium stocked and increase our position politically -- I hope.

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True. Anything to prime the pump is goodness. Hopefully we can use the fact that this much is perfectly legal to get a bill like Wexler's through.

Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
 

If this is the best we can get, maybe we can join the $500 a month package and play for trips around the world and Austin Martins...or whatever (like the joyous opportunity to flog the Senator of your choice)

Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
 

why is this any more "skill-based" than regular online poker?

Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
 

um...no minnesota?

They are trying to use a subscription model, good luck ....
 

The problem is that the subscription model is very cumbersome. Look at the T&Cs.

This is not a way around the UIGE Act however, so good luck.