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JackDuckSooted 09-24-2007 11:41 AM

Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
***Andy sorry if 6 posts is too many I could have put them all in 1 but I thought policy was 1 per hand.

I am posting some hands from the past 2 days first to vent my frustration and second to state my opinion that Pokerstars is rigged. I am sure I will be flamed and people will say I can’t beat poker and I don’t understand variance. I have poker tracker, and I have logged 140,000 hands; I am also a 6 figure winner in that time. I understand no amount of hand histories or ‘bad beats’ are proof. For me these hands in 2 days time is enough to throw up my hands and say something is wrong. Basically I think there is a point where they just don’t let you win anymore.

Good Luck

7 Card Stud High ($100/$200), Ante $15, Bring-In $30 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.75 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds

4th Street - (3.05 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks

5th Street - (1.53 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises

6th Street - (9.53 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

River - (11.53 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___raises
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls

Total pot: (15.53 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $3105 | Rake $2

Seat 3: [Ah 5h 2h 4s Jh Kd 3c] (a straight, Ace to Five)

Hero: [3h 3d 3s Kh 4d Js Ad]

</font>

Eh, maybe this beat is just to standard to post but this was the last straw for me. If you've read all my posts thanks for sharing my pain!

CUonCRUISE 09-24-2007 12:25 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
I play mtt on every site and noone has bad beat me over and over like Pokerstars. The higher the buyin the worse the beats.

Gobias Ind. 09-24-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
I was right about to post the [censored] sick retarded outdraws in EACH and EVERY Stud WCOOP Qualifier played today. Stars is just so [censored] rigged. I don't care what anyone says about FTP, playing across 4 sites for 3 years, I haven't run nearly as bad on any other site as I do on goddam Stars!!!


Please do not circumvent the profanity filter.

Nina 09-24-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
Stats (some 60 000 hands, 80% H 20% Hi/Lo):


site 1: $VPIP 35.29 Won at SD 55.60 BB/100 3.62
site 2: $VPIP 33.50 Won at SD 50.24 BB/100 3.10
site 3: $VPIP 34.01 Won at SD 50.53 BB/100 3.88
Poker Stars: $VPIP 32.01 Won at SD 53.36 BB/100 -2.37 PS

PoorLawyer 09-24-2007 04:19 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Stats (some 60 000 hands, 80% H 20% Hi/Lo):


site 1: $VPIP 35.29 Won at SD 55.60 BB/100 3.62
site 2: $VPIP 33.50 Won at SD 50.24 BB/100 3.10
site 3: $VPIP 34.01 Won at SD 50.53 BB/100 3.88
Poker Stars: $VPIP 32.01 Won at SD 53.36 BB/100 -2.37 PS

[/ QUOTE ]

pretty good BB/100 for playing that high a VPIP...do you play short-handed a lot? also is that 60K hands at each site?

HOWMANY 09-24-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
Fold hand 4 on the river, fold hand 5 on 6th street. The 1/2 Stud Hi on Stars always looks like an awful game with the same 2-4 people playing and a terrible ante size.

Nina 09-24-2007 04:46 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Stats (some 60 000 hands, 80% H 20% Hi/Lo):


site 1: $VPIP 35.29 Won at SD 55.60 BB/100 3.62
site 2: $VPIP 33.50 Won at SD 50.24 BB/100 3.10
site 3: $VPIP 34.01 Won at SD 50.53 BB/100 3.88
Poker Stars: $VPIP 32.01 Won at SD 53.36 BB/100 -2.37 PS

[/ QUOTE ]

pretty good BB/100 for playing that high a VPIP...do you play short-handed a lot? also is that 60K hands at each site?

[/ QUOTE ]

A total of about 60 000 hands. It's the Hi/Lo part that makes VPIP that high, not much SH. The point was, nevertheless -that I lose on PS, nowhere else.

betgo 09-24-2007 06:09 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
You are really making multiple bad beat posts. I guess since it is from high stakes it is more acceptable.

I would reraise the raise from the 2 with a 3 on 3rd. Your reraise represents a concealed big pair, but could be a lot of things. The 2 will won't fold that quickly if you reraise unless he just is on an ante steal or has a very weak hand like 227 or 2KQ.

JackDuckSooted 09-24-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Stats (some 60 000 hands, 80% H 20% Hi/Lo):


site 1: $VPIP 35.29 Won at SD 55.60 BB/100 3.62
site 2: $VPIP 33.50 Won at SD 50.24 BB/100 3.10
site 3: $VPIP 34.01 Won at SD 50.53 BB/100 3.88
Poker Stars: $VPIP 32.01 Won at SD 53.36 BB/100 -2.37 PS

[/ QUOTE ]

pretty good BB/100 for playing that high a VPIP...do you play short-handed a lot? also is that 60K hands at each site?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes those BB/100 numbers are great! If you're playing 20-40 or bigger and winning 3-4 BB/100 you're great. About the VPIP #'s I have ALOT more than 60k hands on several sites I don't so how your hi-lo VPIP should be higher than your high. In fact it is clearly correct to play less hands at hi lo, mine is a full 10% smaller. GL

JackDuckSooted 09-24-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Doomswitch? Part 6 Last one!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold hand 4 on the river, fold hand 5 on 6th street. The 1/2 Stud Hi on Stars always looks like an awful game with the same 2-4 people playing and a terrible ante size.

[/ QUOTE ]

Folding hand 4 on the river is a typical 2+2 tough fold advice. We could discuss this some more but imo in general making laydowns in 7 stud on the river at bigger games is not a good idea. There so just so many standard check call and bet call lines on the river. There really is no getting around it. Once you put 2 bets in on 5 in a dinky pot and bet 6th and 7th and fold. Its clear to the thinking plays at the table that you had 3 2's or K's up and you just folded it for 1 more bet on the river. Its not so smart encourage some of the better(or reckless) players to take shots. Also players sick enough to call a ck raise from an open pair with no pair no draw are usually sick enough to river raise bluff often enough.

About hand 5 I think the call is correct not very many hands that call 2 bets from a J and a K have a J for a straight. He could have a flush it just didn't feel like a flush to me at the time though it could have been. Btw he was bluffing but rivered the dead J.


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