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Woolygimp 11-24-2007 05:34 AM

How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of it.
 
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($50)
Button ($68.65)
SB ($31.20)
BB ($23.70)
Hero ($29.50)
MP ($17.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, MP calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($7.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Hero ???

Do we bet/call? Check/call?

iggymcfly 11-24-2007 05:53 AM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of
 
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Do we bet/call?

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Yes, you can just stop here. It allows you to misrepresent your hand a little, get a little more money in against a worse draw, and win the pot when no one has a piece. Also, considering this is in the very upper range of draws you could have on this flop, it's good metagame to be leading out with some kind of draw to disguise your sets later.

Woolygimp 11-24-2007 06:02 AM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of
 
There's a straight on board, i always lead this when there's not the straight(s).

RoundTower 11-24-2007 01:33 PM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of
 
I fold preflop, and usually bet the flop, although it's close.

Woolygimp 11-24-2007 01:37 PM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of
 
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I fold preflop, and usually bet the flop, although it's close.

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Every Omaha thread on these forums starts out with this.

Elrazor 11-24-2007 02:12 PM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of it.
 
A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is a far better hand for all the obvious reasons, but i still wouldnt get carried away with this hand UTG

bet the flop and see what happens

Hattifnatt 11-24-2007 02:13 PM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of
 
bet/call, if someone calls, push turn most of the time.

Elrazor 11-24-2007 02:19 PM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of
 
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There's a straight on board, i always lead this when there's not the straight(s).

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the made straight is less of a problem here than top set

board: Jd8cTd
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Ad7c2cKd 45.59% 272,683 1,688
q9** 54.41% 325,629 1,688

board: Jd8cTd
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Ad7c2cKd 36.22% 216,375 1,949
JJ** 63.78% 381,676 1,949

for this reason its often good to play top set very agressivly on straight/draw heavy boards, people often forget when they flop top set on a drawy board, that they have the best available draw, and rarely have less than 40% equity HU

cmyr 11-24-2007 02:56 PM

Re: How to play multiway flops when you catch a piece, but not all of
 
bet call is fine given stack sizes, esp. considering we have backdoor clubs.


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