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johnnyrocket 12-01-2007 01:56 PM

Unique Preflop situation
 
This is clearly not a standard 3 bet, villain here is 60/40/3 and just super spewy so i like isolating him, a few unknowns behind me tho so idk if isolating is a good play or folding and waiting for another hand is better

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Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>,Hero ? i want to be ballsy here

Realyn 12-01-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
im happy to play any hand possible against someone with 60/40/3 over more than 10 hands.

larm 12-01-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
standard 3-bet against this opponent?!

johnnyrocket 12-01-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
do most just play it safe and wait for a later hand?

TheHip41 12-01-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
he's a 60-40, i'm not folding

with a hand like KTs, I'm ok with just calling if there are bad players behind me. I want a 5 player pot with KTs.

Oink 12-01-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
Holy crap!

3-ball man

3-ball K5s as well

istewart 12-01-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
KJ is an auto 3-bet here, reraising here is fine and good. Though tbh I call here sometimes because these types let you get lots of value when you flop a pair or draw and you can choose whether or not to protect since you have good relative position.

milesdyson 12-01-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
he rarely limps, but i bet he does so a lot more with AA-QQ than with 76o.

johnnyrocket 12-01-2007 02:03 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
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Holy crap!

3-ball man

3-ball K5s as well

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i like this thinking, I AM ALWAYS ISOLATING HIM if less players are behind, the point was to stress that i still have 3 unknowns behind me that i can get in trouble with this hand.

johnnyrocket 12-01-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
a hand that is a suited connector where i still have good equity if someone behind calls i like alot here, villain never folds postflop and just jams most pots

Oink 12-01-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
If a TAG behinds you caps it sucks

If a fish behind you calls you still get your money in with an edge and maybe position.

Also. Note that when a players has a PFR of 40 his opening standards will often be looser. Maybe 50%. The fact that its only 40% is since they will just call a lot of hands when there is a raise before them.


Seriously. When LAGtastic morons with 40-50% opening ranges open you should 3-ball just about anything playable with a bit of SD value.

Not only do you have an edge of the money going in but you will absolutely rape this guy postflop in position.

inferno 12-01-2007 02:42 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
3ball

johnnyrocket 12-01-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
thanks guys, this was a spot i have trouble with when people are still to act

NinaWilliams 12-01-2007 02:56 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
When I read the preamble, I was expecting to see something really marginal like K7s. Then I saw you had KTs and thought LOL fist pump 3 bet.

johnnyrocket 12-01-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
lol nina, solid

ILOVEPOKER929 12-01-2007 05:29 PM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
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i like this thinking, I AM ALWAYS ISOLATING HIM if less players are behind, the point was to stress that i still have 3 unknowns behind me that i can get in trouble with this hand.

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This is why 3betting with k5s is a bad play in this spot.

waffle 12-02-2007 01:21 AM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
3betting with K5s is the sign of an inflated ego. Most people who play this game today aren't dumb and will realize you're isolating lightly. They will widen their 4bet range and you will get pwned.

If it were up to me, I would remove the gradient from my avatar, delete Larm's avatar, look up the results of "K5s" on Oink's PT (while not on the button or cutoff) and then fold.

ZOMG_RIGGED! 12-02-2007 02:24 AM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
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60/40/3 and just super spewy

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because this is the mark of an opponent who is not dumb? We have position on him, why do we care if he caps? because its a bad thing when a spewy opponent decides to fight back by getting more spewy?

johnnyrocket 12-02-2007 02:52 AM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
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60/40/3 and just super spewy

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because this is the mark of an opponent who is not dumb? We have position on him, why do we care if he caps? because its a bad thing when a spewy opponent decides to fight back by getting more spewy?

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no cuz we have 3 unknowns behind us, if not obviously idc either way, its cuz unknowns behind us to act

ZOMG_RIGGED! 12-02-2007 03:03 AM

Re: Unique Preflop situation
 
ahh, misread. when he said people, he meant other people not the spazz.


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