Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

Poker Stars, $1,000 + $50 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: 3,380
SB: 3,265
BB: 2,829
UTG: 2,700
UTG+1: 2,970
UTG+2: 2,840
MP1: 2,750
MP2: 3,220
Hero (CO): 2,986

Pre-Flop: (30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 20, 2 folds, MP2 calls 20, Hero calls 20, BTN folds, SB calls 10, BB checks

Flop: (100) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 69</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to 220</font>, Hero calls 151

Turn: (540) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets 420</font>, Hero calls 420

River: (1,380) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets 820</font>, Hero folds

Results: 1,380 Pot
MP2 mucked and WON 1,380 (+720 NET)

I really didn't give him credit and thought he'd give up on the river vs. me as most likely an unknown to him.

Thoughts?

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

fold to his raise on the flop

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kind of a strange spot for him to c/r flop so i can understand the dilemma, but thats a really nasty turn card (aside from giving us heart draw)

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Fold preflop.

As played fold to flop raise.

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I don't like the turn call I don't think you get value on the river enough to make it profitable/he gives up and we don't improve.

the PF limp is 100% fine

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I hate bet/call on the flop. If you think people might play at you, check flop back. Otherwise, bet/fold

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Fold preflop.

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no

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I dont understand why in the world we bet the flop
I dont understand why in the world we bet/call the flop
The turn is probably pretty close

As a whole i dont like it at all

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

I agree with limping being fine here, but i'm not sure about betting out the flop or calling the raise. You seem unsure and readless so i either c/f or hope to peel.

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Fold to the flop raise and probably fold the turn.

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I know why you want to call his flop c/r
But most people just don't [censored] atround in mulitwya limped pots

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

Call me weak, but I probably check the flop, fold to the raise, and fold the turn. That bets too big to justify calling although your draw is disguised.

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Call me weak, but I probably check the flop, fold to the raise, and fold the turn.

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I guess I'm weak too


If I call turn, I'm fistpump calling river

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

pr limp is fine. had i bet the flop i def fold to the cr but i check flop always here.

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

What everyone else said, pf limp is fine, bet/fold flop or check, turn is close, river is whatever

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I really didn't give him credit

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why not?

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

Don't mind the limp. Fold on raised flop. As played, definitely fold the turn as well.

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

What hand falls into his range for him to play it this way? If he's not [censored] around in a limped multiway pot then why is he checking the semi-coordinated flop with one tight unknown yet to act behind him? Perhaps it's my LHE roots, but my bluffdar was just going nuts here.

If folding the flop is correct, why? What is his range here?

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

his line is so weird. seeing him talk on the table makes me think he doesnt understand alot about poker but not sure how that affects decision.

i would only call flop if i thought he had a wide range, and then i would shove turn.

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

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I really didn't give him credit

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why not?

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i also thought the flop check was kinda fishy. do you really think he checks a set in that position and risks giving the free card to half the table?

regardless i don't like bet/calling the flop. there is definitely something off about his line but i feel like its a big time reach to put him on a move here 5 minutes into the tourney with no money in the pot.

if i did bet/call i like raising the turn.

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

PF is fine
Flop I don't like either of your actions.
Turn as played is close
River I'd never call.

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

I can't imagine folding preflop. I don't know why everyone hates the flop bet so much, you likely have the best hand, you likely will not have the best hand when the next card comes with 4 others in the pot, take it down.

His flop c/r doesn't come in a multiway pot, it's heads-up when it gets back around to him and he raises. It's a toss-up between it looks like a bluff and it makes no sense for him to be bluffing here. I'd fold because I know another bet is coming on the turn, but I think there's a decent chance your hand is good here.

As played, I would never fold the turn. If he has a set, or just made a straight with T9, you're stacking him if a non-board pairing heart comes on the river. Raising would be crazy, he could easily have the nuts or a set.

As played, fold the river, if he triple barreled with 97 or 76, so be it, but that's all you beat here.

Re: Weird hand v choppy stars 1k
 

gboro please stop posting so i dont have to watch that video for 10 mins straight