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ceegee 11-30-2007 05:18 PM

Split kings line
 
7 Card Stud High ($0.05/$0.10), Ante $0.01, Bring-In $0.02 (converter)

3rd Street

seat 0: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings in___calls
seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls

4th Street

seat 2: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets

Brad1970 11-30-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
standard

RustyBrooks 11-30-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
If you don't make kings up, do you fold 7th?

ceegee 11-30-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
yep.
With my read that he had a monster on the river and the fact that I'm showing 4 cards to a high straight, and he bets into me on 7th almost makes me fold with Kings up.

RustyBrooks 11-30-2007 06:50 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
On the plus side you hold a lot of the cards you're afraid of. Spades, a Q, and you've seen one more 8 already. I think your kings up is beat, but I am not good at stud hi.

dsaxton 11-30-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
I think it's a must call on the river. You see so many absurd plays in low limit stud games that you can't really fold this. He could be value betting queens up or even just making a really dumb bluff.

ceegee 11-30-2007 07:31 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
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I think it's a must call on the river. You see so many absurd plays in low limit stud games that you can't really fold this. He could be value betting queens up or even just making a really dumb bluff.

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PoorLawyer 11-30-2007 07:34 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
wacky boards. Do you have any reads on the player?

Try running some sims on twodimes and see where you are. I am not sure you are ahead on 6th, unless all he has is the dead spade draw with the queens. You are behind if he started with a pair of 8s (no spades down), or really any other pair in the hole, or caught a pair along the way. This is low micro-limit though so he could just be hoping to spike an ace, i dunno, but it seems like he would be calling with something here. I think he is 60/40 or so if he has 2 pr; he could be checking fearing your possible broadway, but you are not going to bet him off his hand at this level.

ceegee 11-30-2007 07:41 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
I have too many outs to make kings up, trips, or a straight not to call.

RustyBrooks 11-30-2007 07:43 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
He's not saying to fold 6th, besides, your opponent checked. He's saying that perhaps betting 6th is not the best action, if you are currently behind.

ceegee 11-30-2007 07:49 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
Oh, well I want him off his hands and I'm betting 6th now that I'm showing a high straight which is a semi bluff that usually works here. Didn't think he would call 6th, because obviously he is behind here if he is flat calling against a 4 straight. I put him on two pair trying to fill his boat. Therefore I think it's right to bet here considering I may be an underdog but I'm betting here incase he doesn't have a straight beat and misses his draw. He is more than likely folding 7th in which I would have bet again if he didn't bet.

RustyBrooks 11-30-2007 08:18 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
The fact that he calls 6th against your board and then bets 7th makes me think you're beat. Like most of these situations, I'd probably call, but while I was calling I'd probably sigh and say, well, what the hell, it's only one bet.

PoorLawyer 11-30-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
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Oh, well I want him off his hands and I'm betting 6th now that I'm showing a high straight which is a semi bluff that usually works here. Didn't think he would call 6th, because obviously he is behind here if he is flat calling against a 4 straight. I put him on two pair trying to fill his boat. Therefore I think it's right to bet here considering I may be an underdog but I'm betting here incase he doesn't have a straight beat and misses his draw. He is more than likely folding 7th in which I would have bet again if he didn't bet.

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If you put him on two pair then you should check 6th as I would imagine your fold equity is fairly low and you are a dog to win.

I have never played this low, but in my experience at a 1/2 game you are pretty much never getting two pair to fold with a bet 6th bet 7th line.

PoorLawyer 11-30-2007 10:09 PM

Re: Split kings line
 
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The fact that he calls 6th against your board and then bets 7th makes me think you're beat. Like most of these situations, I'd probably call, but while I was calling I'd probably sigh and say, well, what the hell, it's only one bet.

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i call too but you are most likely going to groan at one of the last 4 spades that hit.

Andy B 12-01-2007 03:43 AM

Re: Split kings line
 
I don't see anything that's really debatable.


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