NL 400 Blind Battle
 

Comments on both flop and turn appreciated
BB is 23/11 over 229 hands


BB ($1079.30)
UTG ($337.40)
MP ($394.00)
CO ($533.78)
Button ($461.60)
Hero ($446.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, BB calls $14.

Flop: ($36) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $66</font>, Hero calls $38.

Turn: ($168) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $77</font>, Hero ??

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

would help if you also mention his agression factor, he is prob not a great player with 23/11 stats ofer 229 hands.

I think there is a reasonable chance you area ahead, he might have a Q, but he might have 2 pair. Seems like many times when villians take this line they have a VERY STRONG HAND or sometims a weekish hand that they want to get to showdown with or a draw ....

I think it would be ok to call turn and hope to check down river, but if the guy is very aggro you can probably expect another bet from him on river if he misses his draw making this tricky, I really do not think it would be very negative EV (if at all) to just fold on the turn.

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

Oh, sorry I missed out on that.
He's Tot 1.43 but...
Flop 2.9
Turn 3
Riv 5

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

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Oh, sorry I missed out on that.
He's Tot 1.43 but...
Flop 2.9
Turn 3
Riv 5

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with those stats i wouldn't call the turn unless i was gonna call all blank rivers. that being said, i'd dump it on the turn

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

I use diff aggression stats then most do on my hud, how is he 1.43 total aggression when flop turn and river are such higher numbers? I thought total was just an average of those and maybe preflop aggression .... anyone know?

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

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Oh, sorry I missed out on that.
He's Tot 1.43 but...
Flop 2.9
Turn 3
Riv 5

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wtf?

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

I'd let it go on the flop against a 23/11/1.4 (without a read that he can be doing this with junk/air). You are generally going to be sa/wb of his flop-raise range, and it's not going to be fun playing the turn and river OOP.

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

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I'd let it go on the flop against a 23/11/1.4 (without a read that he can be doing this with junk/air). You are generally going to be sa/wb of his flop-raise range, and it's not going to be fun playing the turn and river OOP.

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Right, why is the majority thus far waiting until the turn to dump this hand? Are we discussing the merits of the play on the turn seeing as we got this far?

Re: NL 400 Blind Battle
 

what about just check-calling the flop and calling down non-straight completing turn and rivers?

or, in the alternative, checking the flop and then betting safe turns and rivers if opp checks behind?