Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

Don't have an actual hand history but this has been happening a lot lately. Assume villain is basically unknown but is probably bad, 30/10/2 type stats over a smallish sample with no real reads. I used to autoraise these river bets but they seemed to call a lot so I stopped. Now a suddenly a bunch of players have started taking this line again.

100 BBs effective

Hero is button with TJ and raises $7 BB calls.

Flop is Q 6 2 rainbow. Hero bets $11 BB calls.

Turn is is a 4, completes rainbow board, check, check.

River is a 9, villain bets $12, Hero is annoyed.

Maybe people are suddenly just good at flopping top pair I don't know.

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

fold river, super standard. switch it up with a delayed cbet or a double barrel every now and again.

i would never ever bluff river after getting to it this way, they just will not believe you.

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

oh and yes, 30/10s are damn good at flopping top pair

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

double barrel sometimes, as played fold river

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

I'd fire the turn pretty much as standard as he will call the flop with a 6 and fold the turn mostly

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

OK just checking to make sure. Just seems like I was letting these guys off too easily when they make these 1/3 or 1/4 size blocking type bets.

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

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OK just checking to make sure. Just seems like I was letting these guys off too easily when they make these 1/3 or 1/4 size blocking type bets.

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guys like that always bet small, it's because they suck, not necessarily because they have a weak hand

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

im probably not doubling vs. this guy (though sometimes you can get them to fold their 88) on the turn, i probably just give up by the river. he has like Q3s or something.

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

If I had not been very active, I like firing two here.

It puts some pressure on him two call two streets. If called, I'm probably not firing the third shell.

As played, I just give this one up.

Re: Boring standard spot, $200 NL
 

is there anything else we can do besides give up? this has been happening to me a lot as well. After a while it messes with how agressive you can be at a certain table.

Def sucks when these players are in position on you too. They dont fold to any flop bet.