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TomBrooks 02-11-2007 11:06 AM

3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed)

Easy call on flop, right?

Hero (t2290)
SB (t1345)
BB (t1490)
UTG (t1380)
UTG+1 (t2565)
MP1 (t1995)
MP2 (t1380)
MP3 (t1350)
CO (t1205)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t250, UTG calls t250, CO calls t250.

Flop: (t1225) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t1080 (All-In)</font>, CO folds, Hero calls t1080, BB folds.

Turn: (t3385) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
River: (t3385) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Final Pot: t3385

sng-sam 02-11-2007 11:18 AM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
Tom:

I'm curious to see what others say about this hand but I'm going to have to say fold here. You have a very nice draw. In a cash game I'm sticking it all in quickly because I know I can reload. But here you can't recover from zero. Draws in sng's generally = death. If you could play SNG's and chase almost no draws you would do very well and not miss much EV at all. Just my $.02 good luck.

Straight Flushes,

SAM

meetAmeet 02-11-2007 11:51 AM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
I dunno, seems like an easy call, you are denying very good pot odds if you fold...
you get here 36% just from the flush (when you need just 31% to make it the right call),you have the Q and the K and A outs can be good sometimes against AJ, QQ, KK etc
seems like at least 9+3+2.5=14.5 outs, more than enough to call.

BTW... I didn't like the preflop raise but that just my 2$ S&amp;G humble opinion.

TomBrooks 02-11-2007 11:57 AM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
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BTW, I didn't like the preflop raise

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What don't you like about it?

Velocity 02-11-2007 12:00 PM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
I almost never fold here. He have 12 outs vs a set getting over 2:1, and his range is a lot wider than just sets here.

DaN_05 02-11-2007 12:25 PM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
Yeah I'm defiantely calling flop.

AMT 02-11-2007 12:31 PM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
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I almost never fold here. He have 12 outs vs a set getting over 2:1, and his range is a lot wider than just sets here.

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cant say the PF raise isnt a bit too bloating though...

shbball7 02-11-2007 01:35 PM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
I def call

MadScientist 02-11-2007 01:46 PM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
You must call here. It is a hugely profitable spot. Against his range, you are a huge favorite. Put him on one pair and look at it with Pokerstove, you will see u have a big equity edge.

TomBrooks 02-11-2007 05:06 PM

Re: 3--AKs FD & Gutshot getting 2:1 to call All-In on Flop.
 
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cant say the PF raise isnt a bit too bloating though...

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I was using 4bb + 1bb/limper. I guess thats a rule of thumb for a cash game. What do you think is a better raise amount here?


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