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whyzze 10-15-2007 04:56 AM

50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
No reads. Villian is 23/17/3.5. I am running about 23/20/4.

What do you think of the turn? More importantly, do you call the river?


Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $65
Hero (BB): $87.15
UTG: $46.50
MP: $35.35
CO: $76.05
BTN: $103.30

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, CO calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, CO calls $8

Turn: ($28.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($28.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $19</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $62.05 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???

corsakh 10-15-2007 05:02 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

Nemesis69 10-15-2007 05:04 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
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I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

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You're not even beating that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I think this is a clear baluga.

mickske 10-15-2007 05:07 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
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I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

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You're not even beating that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I think this is a clear baluga.

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AA55x vs JJTTx.

Anyway, fold.

Nemesis69 10-15-2007 05:20 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
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I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

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You're not even beating that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I think this is a clear baluga.

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AA55x vs JJTTx.

Anyway, fold.

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Wow, I suck at poker. I'd better review handrankings again. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

rjacobs003 10-15-2007 05:56 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
Ok I'm confused. You guys need to run me through some detail on why this is so clear-cut as a fold. Does our turn check not show us up for weakness which he could well be trying to exploit on the river?

Nick Royale 10-15-2007 05:58 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
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What do you think of the turn? More importantly, do you call the river?

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The most important part of this hand is betting the turn and it's not close.

Nemesis69 10-15-2007 06:01 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
The only hand that we beat I see villian doing this with is QQ.

Nick Royale 10-15-2007 06:03 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
Pay off on the turn river. You've under repped your hand and villain is aggressive. If villain has JJ/TT so be it.

And this is not baluga.

IlPug 10-15-2007 06:08 AM

Re: 50nl - AA villian shoves river
 
I think you really needed to bet turn here. Were you trying to induce a bet from a hand like KJ/AJ/QJx? River is scary, Villain could have easily flopped a set and played it like this w/TT or JJ. 55 I think he might have layed it down pre, but still a possibility. I think Villain has you beat way to often here, and without other reads would lay it down. Sure, he could be making this push with something like KJ-KQ on a semi-bluff/bluff, but I think this is too hard to tell without knowing more abt Villain's play.

Cliff notes: Turn was bad, I think, you really should have bet. I would lay down river without a better read.


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