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llamage 10-02-2007 07:27 PM

50 NL...I folded a boat
 
I understand that 90% of the time, I go broke here. But something just didn't seem right about villain's line. I think he had a higher boat. My thought process:

He's been pretty loose and agressive on the flop. However, he didn't bet the flop, so that indicates something fishy...

If he had AK on the flop, wouldn't he bet to protect?

Furthermore his raise on the river says : I can beat trip 7's...

What do you guys think? I wouldn't normally do this, but for this one particular hand

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($89.25)
BB ($66.90)
UTG ($67.15)
MP ($50)
CO ($49.30)
Button ($62.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($8) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, Button calls $4.50.

River: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $35</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $38

Peleus 10-02-2007 07:35 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
I'm shoving here every single time. Hate the fold. Sorry.

Don't think yourself out of a hand.

Nairb 10-02-2007 07:41 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
Push,push,push. What hands call your pf raise of 6xbb that beat you here? ONly hands that come to mind are 7 7 or K K and if so you were destined to go broke on this hand. Im thinking he either was on a draw and put you on one too and bet you out of the pot or has something like A 7, or hopefully A A and you stack.

If you are beat then thats poker but I would never fold boat without one hell of a read that would tell me otherwise, well even then I would have to at least call to see what he has.

1tripz1 10-02-2007 07:42 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
Sorry but there is no way you can consider folding here.

QuadLaser 10-02-2007 07:43 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
a HERO, and I mean HERO play would be to just CALL and get shown a higher boat. Many at-a-boys if that was a correct read. Folding is way way wrong. Some hands that play this way :

A7
10 7
9 7
8 7
7 6
7 5
A K
Q K

and

K K

llamage 10-02-2007 07:46 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
you guys forgot about 666 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

mookboi 10-02-2007 08:15 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
As explained before by others, I'm not folding FH here. I also pot it on turn, or bet a little bigger at least.

Unlucky, I guess.

Leviathan101 10-02-2007 09:22 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
You folded a boat?

hope it was a misclick, should be at least calling all day here.

I would say not pushing here is kinda weak but reasonable, but no way you can fold.

Trogdor! 10-02-2007 09:28 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
i dont think 50nl is high enough to make these kinds of laydowns without knowing what this guy has eaten for breakfast kind of reads

Ramana 10-02-2007 09:53 PM

Re: 50 NL...I folded a boat
 
[ QUOTE ]
He's been pretty loose and agressive on the flop. However, he didn't bet the flop, so that indicates something fishy...

[/ QUOTE ]
Thats cos he thinks "zomg i have trips i'll tarp that fool". No way you can fold there. During play you get a million of marginal decisions where you can make your heroic laydowns, but not in this spot, you've just thrown away money here.


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