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SABR42 11-07-2007 11:37 PM

200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
Villain is SobraoBoY, a decent 14/11 TAG playing like 54389729874932 tables at once.

He probably views me as LAGgy, but not spewish.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $143.90
BB: $161.75
UTG: $364.60
Hero (UTG+1): $200
MP1: $47.60
MP2: $127.95
CO: $63.75
BTN: $341.95

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, BTN calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, BTN calls $14

Turn: ($47) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, BTN calls $32

River: ($111) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $70</font>

<font color="blue"> After his turn call his hand is pretty well defined as a mid-pair IMO. I think firing again is +EV against him as he's capable of laying down hands. I'm repping AA/KK/QQ/7x or any AQ/KQ that double-barreled turn and got there.</font>

AllTheCheese 11-07-2007 11:48 PM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
IMO, he calls turn like 80%. So two barreling necessitates three-barreling. Betting turn and checking river would be the worst line imaginable. Should you have two-shelled in the first place? Idk, what's his FoldFlop? If he calls 66 on the flop, then yeah, add barrels. But if he has [99-QQ], I'm a little hesistant.

SABR42 11-07-2007 11:54 PM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
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Betting turn and checking river would be the worst line imaginable.

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Yeah I agree. It wouldn't make sense for me to bet the turn and give up on river.

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Should you have two-shelled in the first place? Idk, what's his FoldFlop? If he calls 66 on the flop, then yeah, add barrels. But if he has [99-QQ], I'm a little hesistant.

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His cold-calling range preflop is a little wider than most TAGs, so I imagine he'd float the flop with weaker hands as well.

CalledDownLight 11-08-2007 12:01 AM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
Fine vs. him. Minbet and hope he times out is also ok.

AllTheCheese 11-08-2007 12:01 AM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
Given what you said about Villain, I think 3-barrel is fine. I mean, you will show up here with hands very often, AA,KK,QQ,AQ,KQ, 55, and maybe JJ/TT (idk how you v-bet). I think your range includes significantly more actual hands than bluffs, so if he's thinking, he'll probably muck 88, 99, TT on this river.

SABR42 11-08-2007 12:03 AM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
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Minbet and hope he times out is also ok.

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Hahahahaha QFT.

SABR42 11-08-2007 12:04 AM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
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Given what you said about Villain, I think 3-barrel is fine. I mean, you will show up here with hands very often, AA,KK,QQ,AQ,KQ, 55, and maybe JJ/TT (idk how you v-bet). I think your range includes significantly more actual hands than bluffs, so if he's thinking, he'll probably muck 88, 99, TT on this river.

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Yeah I probably bet JJ too because he'll almost never have a better hand.

55 would be a bluff though. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

AllTheCheese 11-08-2007 12:06 AM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
&lt;-- donkey

One time I stacked off like that. 88 on an A A 8 7 7 board.

Berge20 11-08-2007 12:36 AM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
What is your thought process on the size of the river bet?

I'm curious

CalledDownLight 11-08-2007 12:39 AM

Re: 200 NL, I 3-barrel.
 
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What is your thought process on the size of the river bet?

I'm curious

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I would think that its a believable vbet size, but also on the cheaper side of where you get away with it as a bluff.


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