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RapidEvolution 11-24-2007 01:17 PM

50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 

I'm new to the table and readless. :/

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$59.90</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$48.00</font>)
MP (<font color="#0000cc">$12.05</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$43.70</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$50.45</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$42.45</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$37.50</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 7 players) Hero is BTN K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.5, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($11.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, UTG calls $10

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($41.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?</font>

Albert Moulton 11-24-2007 01:38 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
Call the river. I wouldn't raise because there are plenty of hands, especially flushes but also straights, that make sense for villain that also beat your open trip tens. But I don't think missed draws call. And TP-hands don't call a push, either.

Raising preflop on the button to isolate the limper to play heads up with a primary goal of winning on a continuation bet is fine. BUt I'd also think that limping to see a cheap flop on the button vs 4 players (since the blinds would come along) would be good too.

jlp_2908 11-24-2007 01:40 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
Easy call cant fold this

F1shRapeMe 11-24-2007 01:44 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
I am definetely not shoving this river. I think this is alot harder of a call then peopel are saying especially against an unknown. I would still look him up here though but would not enjoy doing it.

ship_it_trebek 11-24-2007 01:48 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
Getting a little under 3-1 you have to call here. The board is too coordinated for me to shove, even if it is Friday night donkfest.

RapidEvolution 11-24-2007 02:11 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
LOL this was my thinking exactly. I get confused in spots like this because villain could very well be here with AQ/KQ. I called and he showed KQ all right...KhQh. lol [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Sugar Nut 11-24-2007 02:44 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
(I did not read the comments to this hand before posting, to make my analysis free of influence by other, probably better players)

For almost 4:1 I think this is a call. Sure, looks like he made the Flush in the end and won't allow you to check behind but then he could just try to represent it having a busted straight draw or a Queen.
I think your hand is good here often enough too profitably call.

Sugar Nut

Sugar Nut 11-24-2007 02:50 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Getting a little under 3-1 you have to call here. The board is too coordinated for me to shove, even if it is Friday night donkfest.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is it under 3:1?

River: 3 ($41.25, 2 players)
UTG bets $15, Hero?

Is the $41.25 after UTG's bet or before?

Chargers In 07 11-24-2007 03:05 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
The $41.25 is what the pot starts at on the river. RE is calling $15 to win $56.25.

I also don't think this is as easy as people are making it out to be.

ship_it_trebek 11-24-2007 03:52 PM

Re: 50NL from Friday night. Call/shove river?
 
Typo ftl meant little under 4-1. It's not an easy call, and I don't expect to be good sometimes but I'm not folding here.


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