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iheartponeez 11-23-2007 06:59 AM

WA/WB with AK
 
$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$46.60</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$48.25</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$50.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$43.30</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$61.70</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$8.70</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8.5</font>, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $6

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($17.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($27.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, UTG calls $15

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($57.75, 2 players)
UTG checks


I mean, I can't put him on a ten here, right? But if not a ten, what hand? JJ that thinks I'm a liar? How do you play this, if differently from me/do you v-bet this river (I've come this far, I feel like a shove is pretty mandatory).

anthb7210p 11-23-2007 07:07 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
I raise the flop bc he could be donking w/ a hand like JQ trying to draw for cheap. As played I b/f river and try to get value out of hands like KQ, KJ.

iheartponeez 11-23-2007 07:09 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
[ QUOTE ]
I raise the flop bc he could be donking w/ a hand like JQ trying to draw for cheap. As played I b/f river and try to get value out of hands like KQ, KJ.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry I didn't convert right. On the river it's not a b/f situation. It's shove or nothing (we have much less than a PSB left).

EDIT: Now it's converted and clearer.

anthb7210p 11-23-2007 07:26 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
I just shove then. Don't think he open checks JQ or a T on the river. He most likely has a K or a PP&lt;K. I still like flop raise though.

cashstrapped 11-23-2007 08:34 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
i like to raise the flop too, and id shove here.

Profish2285 11-23-2007 09:00 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
I flat this flop. Not going to concern myself with the only draw possible. If there was a fd out there too then you can raise, no need for that here. His hand really looks like AK/KQ. I probably shove here on the river.

Geordie Ramone 11-23-2007 09:19 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
Without a specific read about that wierd $5 bet I am raising that flop ever time. I would shove river.

If got to see villains cards I would be making a note about what he was playing like this

ragip 11-23-2007 11:36 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
Having raised from UTG and called a reraise I think QJ is a fairly small part of his range. He has a weaker king or weaker pair here almost always, so no need to raise the flop, especially since it is reraised already and you're not going to have any trouble getting in all of your stack. Shove the river. Did he actually have a ten?

ama0330 11-23-2007 11:40 AM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
If you dont want to shove the river you should definitely check the turn through because the river card didnt change anything, therefore if you thought you had the best hand on the turn you still do now.

patrick10 11-23-2007 12:03 PM

Re: WA/WB with AK
 
how bad is villain? ATs could be the bottom of his range. AJ, AQ are quite unlikely but 'possible' since he has a gutshot

KQ , JJ and QQ are probably the best hands you could hope for

AK for tie is pretty likely

and we can't rule out AA either

A check behind is very safe, but could be giving away alot of EV so i assume a push is best here (i would probably do this in the moment anyway)


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