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godofgamblers 08-07-2007 04:09 AM

Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
If you truly loved someone, and realized that the life they're living right now is going to allow them to go to Heaven, wouldn't the correct thing to do be to kill them now to ensure Heaven rather than chance any corruption that could occur down the line? +EV of infinity while staying alive could be -infinite EV. Funny, how all these movies and people try to protect their loved ones at all costs from dying! I always knew the right move is always the least likely one!

borisp 08-07-2007 04:39 AM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
Killing your friend lessens the likelihood that you will go to heaven, and it stops him altogether from potentially helping others go to heaven. Further, it sets a bad example, in that it might cause others to make choices that would prevent them from going to heaven.

In short, no, you shouldn't kill your friend. But I hardly think you need religion to draw this conclusion. Surprising how religion makes it harder to draw, though. Maybe religion is just a bunch of nonsense that helps us get over our anxiety....nahhhh, couldn't be.

Cumulonimbus 08-07-2007 05:10 AM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
wow

godofgamblers 08-07-2007 05:39 AM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
If you were to purely be acting in that person's best interest, what happens to you or others he potentially is helping is of no matter to you.

borisp 08-07-2007 05:41 AM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
You have a very limited imagination with regard to what could be in his best interest.

godofgamblers 08-07-2007 06:26 AM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
And what would you suggest? Maybe I am limited, but what is worth eternal paradise? Keep in mind any action or day you keep him longer alive is a chance at him being corrupted, and facing eternal damnation. No matter how small the % is, multiply by eternity and it's pretty bad.

PLOlover 08-07-2007 06:32 AM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
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in the biblical paradigm god explicitly says not to murder people. So you would really have to be doublethinking here.

borisp 08-07-2007 06:39 AM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
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Maybe I am limited, but what is worth eternal paradise?

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Multiple instances of eternal paradise.

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Keep in mind any action or day you keep him longer alive is a chance at him being corrupted, and facing eternal damnation.

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It is possible that a prerequisite for admittance to heaven is that further corruption is impossible.

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No matter how small the % is, multiply by eternity and it's pretty bad.

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I have trouble multiplying by 13. But I'm lucky, some people only learned their multiplication tables up to 10. Me, I learned up to 12.

I need to go to bed.

govman6767 08-07-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
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If you were to purely be acting in that person's best interest, what happens to you or others he potentially is helping is of no matter to you.

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LOL that's the excuse the U.S. Government has been using for quite some time to pass laws that stick it in our heine's

Silent A 08-07-2007 03:23 PM

Re: Your duty to kill those guaranteed to go to Heaven
 
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wouldn't the correct thing to do be to kill

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in the biblical paradigm god explicitly says not to murder people. So you would really have to be doublethinking here.

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Actually, this argument only makes killing of innocents to guarantee that they'll get into Heaven even more noble.

What greater sacrifice can there be than to willingly accept an eternity in Hell so that others can go to Heaven?

Assuming, of course, that SCM (Standard Christian Mythos) is true.


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