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jaybizzle 11-27-2007 10:00 AM

oooh bottom set!
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($791.40)
BB ($598.15)
UTG ($726.50)
UTG+1 ($994.50)
MP1 ($198.80)
MP2 ($576.90)
CO ($561)
Hero ($2125.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $6, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($21) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $66</font>, Hero calls $66, BB calls $48.

Turn: ($219) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $132</font>, UTG calls $132, Hero calls $132.

River: ($615) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $522.5 (All-In)</font>,

$upermad4it 11-27-2007 10:11 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
I couldnt find a fold here

eggegg 11-27-2007 10:14 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
Readless, it's a fold. Not sure if I can make it or not though.

Praetor 11-27-2007 10:16 AM

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I would raise pre. River is a fold for me.

nextgenneo 11-27-2007 10:23 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
UTG has T9, call

costanza_g 11-27-2007 10:30 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
Isnt it better to just shove turn and let x8 call you?

Oh, this is full ring...hmmm, mebbe not.

stigmata 11-27-2007 10:33 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
I would raise pre and sometimes on turn.

I wouldn't fold, 8x and T9 are very realistic possibilities.

OnYourBike 11-27-2007 10:35 AM

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Folding this? Are you crazy??

eggegg 11-27-2007 10:35 AM

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UTG has T9, call

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He has 87, made his full on the turn and is smooth calling because he is greedy [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

jaybizzle 11-27-2007 10:50 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
Yeah, villain is a regular/winner in the game from what I know. I don't think he would play 9T like this, even though it crossed my mind at the time. I think he also realizes my two over calls are super strong.

stigmata 11-27-2007 10:55 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
It does change things if villain is decent reg compared to a unknown donk - it's best to include reads in the OP.

77/88 would seem more likely than 78s, given that he limped UTG.

Still not sure if i can find a fold though.

eggegg 11-27-2007 11:02 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
A reg winner isn't shoving near 90bb on the river v two opponents without the mortal nuts, or close to it. It's a fold.

Now i'd also be thinking 77/88.

AcTiOnJaCsOn 11-27-2007 11:29 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
raise pre and call the river

*FamilyGuyFan* 11-27-2007 11:47 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
congrats to the money if you called.

fees 11-27-2007 11:50 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
this is so sick, i think i call b/c i cant stand not knowing but this is likely a fold

ipokeder 11-27-2007 11:53 AM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
this is so obviously a fold are you guys serious

ipokeder 11-27-2007 11:53 AM

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this is [censored] full ring

rand 11-27-2007 12:05 PM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
idk online full ring
6max i call this happilly

as far as the actual hand goes...i think i shove turn and i guess if you think that this guy is good that you could fold river

i agree that i doubt the described player has 9T, and im guessing he wouldnt raise A8 on the flop?

so 78(does he even limp this UTG?),77,88? pretty narrow range but his line is consistent enough with those holdings that if hes good tight and im playing well that i can let this go

1o BoY 11-27-2007 12:07 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
this is so obviously a fold are you guys serious

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I dont think anyone gives an honest answer anymore, shame!

Hattifnatt 11-27-2007 12:25 PM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
I like the way you played the hand to the river.

take your time and call river maximizing the chance BB calls as well with something like 8x.

jaybizzle 11-27-2007 06:15 PM

Re: oooh bottom set!
 
I timed down and folded and BB insta folded. UTG immediately asked if I had 22. I never found out what he had.

whorasaurus 11-27-2007 06:34 PM

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he had you by the scrot, good fold.

ImsaKidd 11-27-2007 07:11 PM

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I timed down and folded and BB insta folded. UTG immediately asked if I had 22. I never found out what he had.

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He had 77 or 87 in that case.

blankoblanco 11-28-2007 10:46 AM

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yeah, if he asked you if you had 22, i'm pretty sure he had you

creative 11-28-2007 11:33 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
A reg winner isn't shoving near 90bb on the river v two opponents without the mortal nuts, or close to it. It's a fold.

Now i'd also be thinking 77/88.

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qfttt


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