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billzfan86 03-08-2007 06:53 PM

Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Hey guys I play mostly NL 200 and I wanted to see if any of the guys I go up against are 2+2ers. My screen name is the same here as on full tilt so you guys should know me if you play there regularly. Anyways I dont really wanna start a list of regulars like stars guys did, but Ide like to see if any of the regulars are 2+2ers and get some discussion goin with them.

Push_Fold 03-08-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

bxb 03-08-2007 11:21 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
i used to play at those limits before i moved to 6 max. We didnt play any hand together though.

brutalBeater 03-09-2007 05:38 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I've been playing a lot on the 100NL of Full Tilt lately. Both FR and SH.
I'm on a powermac and that's the only site where I can play without problems. If I could choose than I'd rather play 100NL and 200NL on other sites.

raistlinx 03-09-2007 02:54 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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QFT, QFT, QFT!!!!

viper930 03-09-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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QFT, QFT, QFT!!!!

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are you raistlinw or something on full tilt?

Roma Norgy 03-09-2007 07:15 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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QFT, QFT, QFT!!!!

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Any particular reason why you think Full Tilt may be rigged?

Push_Fold 03-09-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Play on there and you'll see.

raistlinx 03-09-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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QFT, QFT, QFT!!!!

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are you raistlinw or something on full tilt?

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No.

KurtSF 03-09-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Are you guys serious? I'm not getting the joke.

Push_Fold 03-09-2007 09:34 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Of course

raistlinx 03-09-2007 09:42 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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QFT, QFT, QFT!!!!

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Any particular reason why you think Full Tilt may be rigged?

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I can't say it is rigged of course with any certainly, but some rather improbable events occur a little too often for my taste. Others have said the same thing.

Theo_Brixton 03-09-2007 11:06 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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QFT, QFT, QFT!!!!

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Any particular reason why you think Full Tilt may be rigged?

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I can't say it is rigged of course with any certainly, but some rather improbable events occur a little too often for my taste. Others have said the same thing.

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That's because they are donkeys who don't understand variance, or play bad.

Push_Fold 03-10-2007 12:11 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
HU for rollz.

raistlinx 03-10-2007 12:40 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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QFT, QFT, QFT!!!!

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Any particular reason why you think Full Tilt may be rigged?

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I can't say it is rigged of course with any certainly, but some rather improbable events occur a little too often for my taste. Others have said the same thing.

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That's because they are donkeys who don't understand variance, or play bad.

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No, it has to do with the improbability of the cards that come. Nothing to do with the bad players.

GiantBuddha 03-10-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I've never played on a site without players saying it was rigged. Constantly. I don't like FTP too much, though.

raistlinx 03-10-2007 11:33 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I've never played on a site without players saying it was rigged. Constantly. I don't like FTP too much, though.

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True, but a lot of these players have only played a few hundered or a thousand hands. And it's not like the strange stuff happens to just me either. Like I said, I can't say it's rigged but seeing 5 royal flushes in about 700 hands is enough to make me go "hmmm"...

dotbum 03-10-2007 01:01 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I'm considering moving over to FT to try for this $600 100% bonus. Can any of the regulars over there, or people who've done it, tell me how realistic it would be to clear at 25NL and how long it would take on 4-8 tables, 5 hours a day, 5 days a week. The bonus grid on bonuswhores.com reckons 1-2 months. Also, how easy would it be to auto-pilot as a rock to break even and would that affect my bonus/rakeback? (My understanding of MGR is that it wouldn't).

All this talk of riggedness is making me slightly uneasy about the move. Why would the likes of Townsend, Ivey etc. be playing on there if it was fixed? Also what are your opinions on the Kennedy assassination, Moon landing, and the Bilderberg group? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

rsliu 03-10-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I play FT 1/2 full and the quality of play from what i've seen is absolutely atrocious.

Push_Fold 03-10-2007 02:13 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I cleared the bonus at 50NL and it took me about 30,000 hands so I would assume 60,000 hands at 25nl to clear the full $600.

jjb108 03-10-2007 02:22 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I played at a local casino last night. Saw set over set. Quads 2 times, AA vs. KK, and a str8 flush. I had 2 boats, AA x 2, QQ, JJ x 2 over about 320 hands.

Poker is rigged.

mack848 03-10-2007 02:50 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I dont really wanna start a list of regulars like stars guys did, but Ide like to see if any of the regulars are 2+2ers and get some discussion goin with them.

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I play the $100 full tilt game and don't mind naming a few of the better regulars!

The biggest winners in my dbase are IamDaisy, EYEfoldAA, TheSnake-28, Cardsman1992 and CountScoopula. IamDaisy is the sort of player who shouldn't be able to win well. He/she is 11/7/5:- super tight from EP and MP, whilst still managing to get paid off, but will 3bet light and is super aggressive post flop.

They aren't World beaters, but then again, no-one is in that game.

Theo_Brixton 03-10-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
iamdaisy sucks...every once in a while I see a really bizarre play out of him/her.

Push_Fold 03-10-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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iamdaisy sucks...every once in a while I see a really bizarre play out of him/her.

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...ummm mixing up it probably. 11/7 players get a lot of R E S P E C T

MotorBoatingSOB 03-10-2007 06:32 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Yea, i'm a regular in these games and daisy doesn't seem to get out of line very often (I have about 40k hands with him). I've seen him stack off on a bluff/semibluff exactly twice.

raysit 03-10-2007 07:33 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I have played FT NL100 over last month and cleared bonus over 15,000 hands. For players over 2500 hands (not alot) i have Billzfan86 as clearly the playter with best win rate. Most successful players multitable, playing TA. I have been moderately successful through Feb/Mar playing LAG against these players on 1 or 2 tables. Some players quoted as being better players I agree with, others i have as big losers over a fair sample.

MotorBoatingSOB 03-10-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I have played FT NL100 over last month and cleared bonus over 15,000 hands. For players over 2500 hands (not alot) i have Billzfan86 as clearly the playter with best win rate. Most successful players multitable, playing TA. I have been moderately successful through Feb/Mar playing LAG against these players on 1 or 2 tables. Some players quoted as being better players I agree with, others i have as big losers over a fair sample.

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Can you be more specific about which players you have as winners/losers?

I have a lot of hands with some of these guys. I don't really want to post any notes on these people since I'd be "taking food out of my mouth" so to speak. But I don't mind posting some stats, since these are available through data-mining anyway. I have at least 10k hands with each of these people.

Captain Irish (3.4ptbb/100), 17.5/7.3/5.2
cardsman1992 (0.4ptbb/100), 20.5/8.9/2.5
Count Scoopula (4.4ptbb/100), 15.8/9.8/2.2
DragonLady70 (-0.5ptbb/100), 15.8/2.5/1.3
EyeFoldAA (0.0ptbb/100), 11.7/5.4/1.8
JimtheJakal1 (1.4ptbb/100), 16.2/3.2/2.4
iamdaisy (3.1ptb/100), 22.7/6.7/4.9
magikoso (0.1ptbb/100), 13.8/6.8/4.3.
Portugeezer (8.8ptbb/100), 13.1/8.4/3.5
Roon2020 (4.9ptbb/100), 14.9/4.4/2.2
TheSnake-28 (3.2ptbb/100), 15.3/3.8/2.3

Theo_Brixton 03-10-2007 10:04 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
too bad 10k hands is worthless ... for example eyefoldaa is one of the better players on that list. I think you can just tell by how they play after a while.

MotorBoatingSOB 03-10-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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too bad 10k hands is worthless ... for example eyefoldaa is one of the better players on that list. I think you can just tell by how they play after a while.

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Yea, 10k hands is pretty worthless as far as winrate (and probably AF), but not for VPIP or PFR. These stats become fairly accurate fairly quickly.

You've said really general things like "daisy sucks" and "eyefoldAA is better". Would you care to share some more details about this or your thoughts on some of the other players mentioned in this thread?

billzfan86 03-11-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Thanks raysit, although I havent played NL 100 in like 3 weeks becuase Ive moved up to NL 200, the only player I know from motorboatingsob's list is magikoso and I agree with that win rate for him hes pretty much breakeven player. I think 95% of the regulars at the NL 100 and NL 200 level are tight nits and I think you can get out cheapy against them or take hands away from them on the turn a good amount of the time they enter. I cant think of one regular I try to avoid unless there are a bunch of regulars at one table becuase there are obviously easier tables.

raysit 03-11-2007 01:36 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Billszfan, Most of my play was about 3 weeks ago as well. Hope to join you at NL200 soon. As for stats for players I currently have these figures -

Captain Irish, 17.8/7.7/4.7 very agressive post flop
cardsman1992, 22.5/8.1/2 losing 4.9bb, lacks aggression
Count Scoopula, 14.5/9.0/1.7 breakeven player who can be played
DragonLady70, 17.1/3.7/1.5 can be erratic, losing player
EyeFoldAA, 10.6/5.6/1.8 too cautious,breakeven player
iamdaisy, 10.8/7 /5.4 (17000 hands) tight aggressive, wins
magikoso, 13.8/6.2/3.7 ta, struggles to let go of a hand
Roon2020, 15.3/4.5/1.7 easily beat postflop, consistent
TheSnake-28, 13/3/2.3 consistent, very agg on flop

Haven't got alot more time at the moment but other notable winners are Sandler1860, camicazi, Reusje

Look forward to your comments on these players.

mack848 03-11-2007 06:21 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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too bad 10k hands is worthless ... for example eyefoldaa is one of the better players on that list. I think you can just tell by how they play after a while.

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I agree. For example, I have 9k on EyefoldAA at +9 bb/100 and 7k hands on CountScoopula at +10 bb/100.

raysit 03-11-2007 06:57 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
My figures vary significantly on smaller samples. EyefoldAA at -2.4ptbb/100 after 3500 hands & CountScoopula at -.74ptbb/100 after 5000 hands. Very large variances here & likely both are winning players at around 4-5ptbb/100.

jschaud 03-11-2007 08:16 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
is this all FR?

mack848 03-11-2007 08:20 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
yes

dotbum 03-11-2007 08:34 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I cleared the bonus at 50NL and it took me about 30,000 hands so I would assume 60,000 hands at 25nl to clear the full $600.

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Cheers for the info, may try this over the next couple of weeks.

xxrod17xx 03-12-2007 11:31 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Any micro limit regulars at FTP, I used to play 100NL and 50NL a long time ago but I withdrew after all the legislation and I am no grinding it at 10NL so if anyone wants to discuss some hands and stuff or share info on players let me know

GeterPriffin 03-12-2007 12:44 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

[/ QUOTE ] I'm a regular @ the $200 level. Lol thank god it's "rigged" in my favor (50K hands). I've been beating it at about 5.5PTBB/100.

kurto 03-12-2007 12:57 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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I've seen this comment a lot. I have to admit I've found FTP very frustrating.

I've played at 3 sites now (stars, party (no more, of course) and FTP)... I ran ~8bb/100 at 25$ tables and ~5 bb/100 at $50 tables... but I'm about break even at FTP. Granted I haven't played there as long but still.

I have been joking that at FTP, I always lose if someone calls my all in with an inside straight draw.

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raistlinx 03-12-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I don't think there are too many 2+2 regulars. By the time most make it to 100-200nl they realize how rigged FTP is.

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I've seen this comment a lot. I have to admit I've found FTP very frustrating.

I've played at 3 sites now (stars, party (no more, of course) and FTP)... I ran ~8bb/100 at 25$ tables and ~5 bb/100 at $50 tables... but I'm about break even at FTP. Granted I haven't played there as long but still.

I have been joking that at FTP, I always lose if someone calls my all in with an inside straight draw.

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Your stats just abour mirror mine at the other sites (Pokerroom and stars) but like you I am also only break even at FTP.

And it is no joke about how often a 2-5 outer pulls ahead when you get all in before the river there. I am going to analyze the stats I have from the 30K hands there where I was ai and ahead later this week (about 250 of them). I'm curious if it just seems like they suck out more.


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