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brizzypare 08-03-2007 10:08 PM

Make this river call with JJJ?
 
Sorry, the hand history has disappeared somehow..

Blinds are 50/100, I have ~3100 in chips.

I open for 400 with KJ from 2 off button. CO calls.

Flop QJ6 rainbow.
I check.
He checks.

Turn 9, putting a diamond flush draw out there.
I bet 400.
He calls.

River offsuit J.
I bet 700, leaving me with 2000 chips left.
He pushes.
I call?????????

gobboboy 08-03-2007 10:58 PM

Re: Make this river call with JJJ?
 
Open smaller preflop, 300 is fine.

Bet/fold the flop.

Call the river.

Foucault 08-03-2007 11:02 PM

Re: Make this river call with JJJ?
 
No folding now. But your bet sizing on every street needs work. No reason to make it 400 pre, turn bet is too small, river bet is alright I guess, and I probably bet-fold the flop.

08-03-2007 11:08 PM

Re: Make this river call with JJJ?
 
Yeah, you put yourself in a weird spot once you check this flop. I'd bet/shutdown on the flop. As played, your river lead is so weak looking that you really have to call here. I'd only ever bet that amount on the river if I was planning to snap-call anyway. Otherwise, just bet more so you get more value when he calls 88 trying to catch your "obvious AK."

08-03-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Make this river call with JJJ?
 
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river bet is alright I guess

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Only if he's using it to induce a weaker hand to shove, IMO. Since he wasn't sure what to do when he got the shove, it sounds like he wasn't, in which case, I really don't like it at all.

Foucault 08-03-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Make this river call with JJJ?
 
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river bet is alright I guess

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Only if he's using it to induce a weaker hand to shove, IMO. Since he wasn't sure what to do when he got the shove, it sounds like he wasn't, in which case, I really don't like it at all.

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That is what I meant, and of course you're right that it is all the more reason to snap-call.


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