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gregorio 11-01-2007 05:25 PM

NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 

villain is 9/9/oo but only 30 hands, so basically no reads except he is not crazy loose

Poker Stars: $0.25/$0.50 6 players
100BB eff stacks

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $6</font>, Hero ?

Any point in not shoving and trying to get some value out of a Cbet on the flop, or is that just asking for trouble when an A flops or when I have to guess whether any of the undercards to my KK made a set. I think I have to shove, but I also think I only get called by AA and usually just pick up the pot right there.

wingchunflush 11-01-2007 05:26 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
YOU SHOVE HERE 100% OF THE TIME. Good lord you were you not here two weeks ago?

gregorio 11-01-2007 05:27 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
Calm down. I wasn't ever folding. Or did I miss the "Always shove KK PF" thread?

pdiggz 11-01-2007 05:29 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
4-bet to $20, call if BB shoves.

PJo336 11-01-2007 05:36 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
you guys arent really answering him lol

I think trying to get fancy is pointless, cuz an ace either beats you or ruins value u can get. No point in letting 1010-QQ fold to an A or K on the flop, 4 bet it

thac 11-01-2007 05:37 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
4-bet to 18ish.. make it kinda small. We're in position, he has a monster hand it seems (nitty, 3-bet you OOP when you raised in EP), and we want him to shove AK as much as he wants to - but I doubt he calls a shove with it.

dpis 11-01-2007 05:37 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
yeah, ive been smooth calling these a lot more lately. i used to always rr or just push, and youre right that you either get a fold or called by aces on the push. youll have pos on him so let the flop come and let him bet, then raise enough to get him to get it in (at this point if hes got aces oh well, but if he doesn't you've gotten more money out of him than i think you would have otherwise)

wingchunflush 11-01-2007 05:39 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
Lol i was ready to start linking pics lol

aka_bebel 11-01-2007 05:42 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
Make it ~18 PF .
Don't shove PF.
If you 4bet him he is calling JJ/QQ sometimes ,but if you shove he is folding them a lot of times and you will win only a small pot.He might shove AK if you make it ~18 but I doubt he calls an all in with AK..

If he calls and an A flops I don't put any more money in the pot.On any non A flops we play for the rest of our stack

gregorio 11-01-2007 06:01 PM

Re: NL50: my KK gets 3bet by BB PF
 
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Lol i was ready to start linking pics lol

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I made 2 or 3 pics in that thread. Would have been great if you had posted one of mine.


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