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eviljeff 10-08-2007 08:01 PM

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As I said, I have no doubt that is what you think.

I've said my piece and I won't respond to further public questions. I feel no need to 'defend' myself any further.

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yeah not going to be doing any deals with kyleb

rowdyclassmate 10-08-2007 08:12 PM

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The afternoon of Oct. 1st, he should have been paid. No waiting, no excuses, etc. When a man makes a bet, money should be ready to be paid or collected at the agreed upon date.

rowdyclassmate 10-08-2007 08:13 PM

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Bob,

If the $40k deal was after being heavily discounted, what was it worth when the market was flourishing? And, what was the timeframe between full value and discounted value?

MatthijsH 10-08-2007 08:26 PM

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This is gonna be good.

adanthar 10-08-2007 08:33 PM

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hmm, today does sound a lot like 'wednesday' which is when I said you should post this, after I had time to get in touch with kyleb and hopefully clear this up privately.

unfortunately, it turns out it's still 'monday' after all. LOL.

Diomed 10-08-2007 08:41 PM

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sorry adanthar,

i waited a week and countless pm's with no response and last night i was just there sitting and thinking about it and i needed to air things out. he had adequate time to respond to me, he obviously read the PM's and let me reiterate the bet was made in July, he knew the exact day we were weighing in and the exact day the bet was over. I sent him PM's that were read and not responded too and it was clear he was still active on the boards. sorry but i lose its shipped october 1st. october 1st was the day i was working for for 2 months. i shouldn't have to be chasing mods and that certainly isnt your job either. he finally said he was gonna make good, i still havent received anything yet but whateva. gg

DamitBob 10-08-2007 08:41 PM

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It wasn't for sale pre doomsday. Probably 60-7o% more pre.

If hes a good mod,let him be a mod, I could care less.

My bet is he was looking for a backer for my biz and no one bit.

He put me on ice for 40 days and went huntin for a money guy. No one bit. That would explain why he came up 40K short. Its not a big sum of money or anything I lost sleep over. I just wanted to say beware of deals with him.

ebepse 10-08-2007 08:47 PM

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it should be public so 2p2 knows to be cautious with him. and it brought up the other situation.

suzzer99 10-08-2007 08:48 PM

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Hooray OP for not listening to instructions and helping me kill 8 more minutes of my boring workday!

mntbikr15 10-08-2007 08:49 PM

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It wasn't for sale pre doomsday. Probably 60-7o% more pre.

If hes a good mod,let him be a mod, I could care less.

My bet is he was looking for a backer for my biz and no one bit.

He put me on ice for 40 days and went huntin for a money guy. No one bit. That would explain why he came up 40K short. Its not a big sum of money or anything I lost sleep over. I just wanted to say beware of deals with him.

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Bob pretty clearly>>>>KyleB in buisness

kemystery 10-08-2007 08:52 PM

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always escrow imo

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DamitBob 10-08-2007 08:55 PM

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always escrow imo

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I was just trying to get the FAT guy paid! I think he will get his 2 hundo now. I think interest should be added for the hassle though. 2 fiddy sounds about right. Can I get a second on that?

Diomed 10-08-2007 08:56 PM

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Hooray OP for not listening to instructions and helping me kill 8 more minutes of my boring workday!

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It wasn't that I didn't listen to instructions by adanthar they were valid but I just got home last night and I was like this is bull [censored] why do I have to chase this guy around. Even adanthar said he suggested I wait till wednesday but what has come out of this thread is pretty juicy and how long do you have to wait for someone to live up to their word?

Diomed 10-08-2007 08:58 PM

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always escrow imo

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I was just trying to get the FAT guy paid! I think he will get his 2 hundo now. I think interest should be added for the hassle though. 2 fiddy sounds about right. Can I get a second on that?

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Lol that is not necessary. THanks for the fat comment. kyleb is aware that I am not balla and that this represents like 1/8th of my bankroll so whatever. I will escrow everything in the future.

DamitBob 10-08-2007 09:05 PM

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I was just trying to get the FAT guy paid! I think he will get his 2 hundo now. I think interest should be added for the hassle though. 2 fiddy sounds about right. Can I get a second on that?

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Lol that is not necessary. THanks for the fat comment. kyleb is aware that I am not balla and that this represents like 1/8th of my bankroll so whatever. I will escrow everything in the future.

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The escrow comment was aimed at me I think, bruddha.

I think you were correct to post when you wanted to and Kyles response to you was horrible so I told my story.

I'm glad you will be paid now, chubby. jopke.

Grey 10-08-2007 09:08 PM

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I heard a rumor there were fat people in this thread. Confirm?

gumpzilla 10-08-2007 09:12 PM

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I'm amused at the various "demod kyle" chatter in this thread. "The internet is serious business" is an overused meme, particularly at a forum where it so clearly is serious business for many people, but I don't see why one expects or needs to hold moderators to a higher standard than other posters with regards to personal conduct. I don't see what that has to do with their job, which is largely removing content that 2+2 finds objectionable. In any cases where they've been involved in financial transactions with other 2+2 community members it certainly hasn't been with the imprimatur of 2+2.

As for the factualness of the rest, while it's certainly douchy of Bob to bring up his deal with kyle, I find his story pretty damn plausible, and suspect the truth is probably fairly close to what he claims.

DamitBob 10-08-2007 09:28 PM

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I don't think KyleB should be a mod any more.

Sorry, Kyle [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Let it be noted that this has more to do with you being a BBV4L infant who doesn't like kyle as a mod than any great sense of ethics.

Dammitbob,

That credit score [censored] is cheap and petty. You seem like a piece of crap.

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You must not be proud of yer credits either? I could care less what you say dids you punk. I have read your weak posts.

If you had any sense you would stand clear of your good buddy on this one.

b_jerkins 10-08-2007 09:42 PM

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I'm amused at the various "demod kyle" chatter in this thread. "The internet is serious business" is an overused meme, particularly at a forum where it so clearly is serious business for many people, but I don't see why one expects or needs to hold moderators to a higher standard than other posters with regards to personal conduct. I don't see what that has to do with their job, which is largely removing content that 2+2 finds objectionable. In any cases where they've been involved in financial transactions with other 2+2 community members it certainly hasn't been with the imprimatur of 2+2.

As for the factualness of the rest, while it's certainly douchy of Bob to bring up his deal with kyle, I find his story pretty damn plausible, and suspect the truth is probably fairly close to what he claims.

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Are you kyleb's [censored] buddy or something?

1) Mod's at 2p2 are for the most part assumed to be well known and trusted(not saying this is smart/a good idea, but its certainly the case). What's to stop him from making some giganto prop bet for upwards of 2-3k, and not paying if he loses? Free EV here, or what's to stop him from doing a FTP/Stars transfer and just keeping 5-10K?

2) Why do you think its douchy of him to bring this story up? In his opinion, and it seems semi justified, he got [censored] by kyleb in this deal. Is he not allowed to warn people who might in the future do business with him?

Seriously, pull your head out of your ass.


Also, FWIW I know nothing about kyleb and had no opinion of him prior to this thread.

bronx bomber 10-08-2007 09:51 PM

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I do know kyle had a huge fiasco with FTP because they explicitly said he could do a bunch of transfers, then locked his account because of it.

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Anyone think this is Imsakidd settin up a "problem" with Kylebs transfer?

Thrahl 10-08-2007 09:59 PM

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Thread delivers

ImsaKidd 10-08-2007 10:06 PM

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I do know kyle had a huge fiasco with FTP because they explicitly said he could do a bunch of transfers, then locked his account because of it.

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Anyone think this is Imsakidd settin up a "problem" with Kylebs transfer?

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I'm not setting up [censored].

You can find the thread in the internet gambling forum about how his account got locked and crap.

bronx bomber 10-08-2007 10:11 PM

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I'm not setting up [censored].

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I notice you didnt vote Yes LOL.

BowToYourSensei 10-08-2007 10:21 PM

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boy did this get [censored] insane in a hurry

Diomed 10-08-2007 10:24 PM

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No doubt. Well no updates as of yet or you could say the update is that there is no update

Alobar 10-08-2007 10:24 PM

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lol, at all the people who think modship somehow conveys some sort of status of trustworthiness. You realize any jagoff can become a mod of an internet message board, there isnt some stringent test they have to pass. They are no more to be trusted than any other poster.

I like KyleB, but I think the way he handled this prop bet is pretty weakass. You should be ready to pay if you lose the instant the bet is over if youve had ample time to get payment in order. 2+ months is def ample time.

ImsaKidd 10-08-2007 10:25 PM

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I'm not setting up [censored].

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I notice you didnt vote Yes LOL.

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I'm indifferent, just stating the facts.

If anything I would be against kyleb because he didnt share info with me when I did casino bonuses.

teh_minbet_pokr 10-08-2007 10:27 PM

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2p2 has a health and fitness forum?

gumpzilla 10-08-2007 10:32 PM

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1) Mod's at 2p2 are for the most part assumed to be well known and trusted(not saying this is smart/a good idea, but its certainly the case). What's to stop him from making some giganto prop bet for upwards of 2-3k, and not paying if he loses? Free EV here, or what's to stop him from doing a FTP/Stars transfer and just keeping 5-10K?

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This is true of pretty much any account with 2500+ posts. Once you've posted that much, should there be a series of ethical tests and quizzes (each more ornate than the last) that one must pass in order to continue posting? In any case, it's not 2+2's responsibility to provide any kind of guarantee of honorable behavior in transactions among various members of the community, and setting themselves up to even appear as such seems like a bad idea to me.

Gildwulf 10-08-2007 10:39 PM

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You realize any jagoff can become a mod of an internet message board, there isnt some stringent test they have to pass.

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I had to fit 4 oranges in my mouth.

cowpig 10-08-2007 10:41 PM

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You realize any jagoff can become a mod of an internet message board, there isnt some stringent test they have to pass.

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I had to fit 4 oranges in my mouth.

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he was able to annunciate the words "orange porridge."

it was quite a feat

Kiddmother 10-08-2007 10:43 PM

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always escrow imo

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So, let me ask this, how does the escrow work then if mods aren't to be trusted? Everything I've read has said something like "looking for a mod to escrow this bet, etc. "

costanza_g 10-08-2007 11:14 PM

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Our handshake was for a specific price and a done deal

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ImsaKidd 10-08-2007 11:17 PM

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always escrow imo

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So, let me ask this, how does the escrow work then if mods aren't to be trusted? Everything I've read has said something like "looking for a mod to escrow this bet, etc. "

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Mom:

The idea is not ALL mods can be trusted, just because their name is a pretty green color.

The same goes for people who have big numbers under their name.

Gildwulf 10-08-2007 11:27 PM

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always escrow imo

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So, let me ask this, how does the escrow work then if mods aren't to be trusted? Everything I've read has said something like "looking for a mod to escrow this bet, etc. "

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Mom:

The idea is not ALL mods can be trusted, just because their name is a pretty green color.

The same goes for people who have big numbers under their name.

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p.s. thanks for the care package, you make the best cookies.

xoxox
imsa

chiTown22 10-08-2007 11:30 PM

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Has the bet been paid?

Diomed 10-08-2007 11:33 PM

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Uhhhh no. Back to grinding.

BowToYourSensei 10-08-2007 11:35 PM

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fwiw, kyle's aim has been idle for quite some time and he hasn't posted in a while, hopefully he's just in transit on his way home

Diomed 10-08-2007 11:38 PM

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I give him till 2am my time then I do exactly this..... ????? lol

ebepse 10-08-2007 11:40 PM

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hes here now, browsing sporting events


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