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I don't believe this for 1 second. And here is why. You never once said you were having second thoughts or lawyers were advising against it. You said that you were gathering money. I called [censored] when you couldnt even get 10% rounded up a week late.

Our handshake was for a specific price and a done deal (with you, your partner and I all present).We even agreed on the full payment date (giving you plenty of time to get it together you said).

Why plead "broke" to me 7 days past the payment date if it was lawyers and UIGEA that killed the deal?
Bad credit and no cashish killed it. Str8 up.

Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

PM sent. It's 4:37 here now by tonight I hope you mean before 2am central time here and sooner. GG. Sorry it had to come to this. Got some answers though so it was worth it.

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As I said, I have no doubt that is what you think.

I've said my piece and I won't respond to further public questions. I feel no need to 'defend' myself any further.

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But, whatever. You guys can choose to believe who you want.

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the use of this line just about proves youre lying imo

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But, whatever. You guys can choose to believe who you want.

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the use of this line just about proves youre lying imo

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As I said, I have no doubt that is what you think.

I've said my piece and I won't respond to further public questions. I feel no need to 'defend' myself any further.

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sooo youre basically agreeing to this

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Why plead "broke" to me 7 days past the payment date if it was lawyers and UIGEA that killed the deal?
Bad credit and no cashish killed it. Str8 up.


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As I said, I have no doubt that is what you think.

I've said my piece and I won't respond to further public questions. I feel no need to 'defend' myself any further.

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Thats fine. I just wanted other 2+2ers to know how you do business. I didnt expect you to say "I made a promise I couldnt keep", or "i'm a bad credit mofo". Which both are accurate statements.

Enough about old biz;

Lets go str8 to the prop bet. Credit scores. I give you 50 points and 2-1. Are we on for 5 hundo?

Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

I don't think KyleB should be a mod any more.

Sorry, Kyle [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I don't think KyleB should be a mod any more.

Sorry, Kyle [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Is it weird that I always thought of his name being pronounced "Ky-leb" not "Kyle-B". Maybe it's because it's not capitalized.

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I don't think KyleB should be a mod any more.

Sorry, Kyle [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Let it be noted that this has more to do with you being a BBV4L infant who doesn't like kyle as a mod than any great sense of ethics.

Dammitbob,

That credit score [censored] is cheap and petty. You seem like a piece of crap.

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Sounds pretty scummy though Dids

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sorry ill try to be a better poster by emulating a mod

ok who should i scam first?

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dids,

I've never even remotely disliked Kyle, and still don't

I think that mods should have spotlessly trustworthy records

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dids,

I've never even remotely disliked Kyle, and still don't

I think that mods should have spotlessly trustworthy records

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or at least not be known for this type of thing, it's not as if he's really denying anything. But whatever, it's not as if he's running a charity drive

Just give the kid his $200 and stop giving him a hard time, since when should someone have to hassle you to pay what you owe. Jeez

Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

OK hypothetical:

Somebody has an informal agreement to buy something.

Unexpectedly, the market for said product instantly dries up and investors bail.

Guy backs out of agreement because he'd rather not busto himself for a bag of magic seeds.

You really call that a scam?

It's a pretty stupid person who would let their own sense of honor make them buy a worthless product. How many of you hold yourself to the same standards?

Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

exaggeration ldo bc of what u mentioned earlier. its a vicious cycle

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dids, the point was that they had a legal and binding contract. unfortunately, it was only verbal. they had a deal and it was backed out of. if a person X agrees to buy A from Y and the market for A dries up, X takes a bath not Y.

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I don't believe this for 1 second. And here is why. You never once said you were having second thoughts or lawyers were advising against it. You said that you were gathering money. I called [censored] when you couldnt even get 10% rounded up a week late.

Our handshake was for a specific price and a done deal (with you, your partner and I all present).We even agreed on the full payment date (giving you plenty of time to get it together you said).

Why plead "broke" to me 7 days past the payment date if it was lawyers and UIGEA that killed the deal?
Bad credit and no cashish killed it. Str8 up.

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I worked with Kyle pretty extensively for over a year, and not that he really needs me to defend him, but he's certainly a standup guy.

Telling someone you are having significant concerns re: the legality of their business is a good way to make them panic and sell to someone else, so I can understand why you got positive comments from him until he was 100% sure he was not going to buy it.

Maybe you got misled a bit, but I doubt that if the deal was good enough to Kyle, that cash was the deciding factor.

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I don't think KyleB should be a mod any more.

Sorry, Kyle [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Let it be noted that this has more to do with you being a BBV4L infant who doesn't like kyle as a mod than any great sense of ethics.

Dammitbob,

That credit score [censored] is cheap and petty. You seem like a piece of crap.

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I have no opinion of Kyle as a mod. As a poster premod he always came off as a bit of a dick but i never had any real beef with him (note citanul comes of as a dick but i like him).

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As for the other bit, personally i think Kyle making a verbal contract signed by a handshake and then backing out makes him a piece of crap.

His reasons are irrelivent, he should have researched stuff like legality and whether he can find investors before agreeing to the deal and then stringing on the seller.

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Just give the kid his $200 and stop giving him a hard time, since when should someone have to hassle you to pay what you owe. Jeez

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OK hypothetical:

Somebody has an informal agreement to buy something.

Unexpectedly, the market for said product instantly dries up and investors bail.

Guy backs out of agreement because he'd rather not busto himself for a bag of magic seeds.

You really call that a scam?

It's a pretty stupid person who would let their own sense of honor make them buy a worthless product. How many of you hold yourself to the same standards?

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somebody lying in this thread hur hur hur

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I called [censored] when you couldnt even get 10% rounded up a week late.


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FWIW the not paying 10% is pretty consistent with kyle's story.

Whether you guys agreed to a hypothetical buy or a real buy is a different story. If he had only paid you 10% a week late, thats obv intention to buy.

Maybe just miscommunication, I feel like kyle is pretty busy and maybe some things get overlooked, although the timeframe OP said is ridiculous.

I do know kyle had a huge fiasco with FTP because they explicitly said he could do a bunch of transfers, then locked his account because of it.

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i have told this guy that i will obviously pay him. i have a few prop bets that will go out.

bothering me on AIM while drunk and being a moron isn't going to help the process any. let me load up stars like i said. christ.

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You let a prop bet go unpaid for a week and then call the other guy a moron. THis is way out of line.

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OK hypothetical:

Somebody has an informal agreement to buy something.

Unexpectedly, the market for said product instantly dries up and investors bail.

Guy backs out of agreement because he'd rather not busto himself for a bag of magic seeds.

You really call that a scam?

It's a pretty stupid person who would let their own sense of honor make them buy a worthless product. How many of you hold yourself to the same standards?

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I thought it was pretty clear this was post Uigea not pre?

This deal was consumated after UIGEA and my sites were offered at a large discount and up for sale only because of the changing climate for affiliate sites. Kyle and his partner saw a good deal and after going over all of my numbers (back end stats, P and L's, etc.) made an offer to purchase, face to face. I wouldn't drop my price, they said "we want it, will you come here for 1 week and help us (basically consult as part of price) get rollin. I offered my consulting for 1 week and we all shoke hands. Thats a deal.

Heres my problem with this deal. Don't promise 40K in 30 days (I think this is correct but not positive on exact days) then 37 days later not have 10% of it. I said, you really can't come with 4K? When you said 30 days for 40K was no problem?

Why not just say "my lawyers say no". That would have been fine and I would have said shame on me for believing their word. And why wait till past the deadline to say something?

We had 6 or 8 emails going back and forth about $$$$$$. And why they didnt have any. No mention of anything except wanting my sites and trying to gather cash.

No Money. Period.

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POST EMAILS

DRAMABOMB EXPLODE

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POST EMAILS

DRAMABOMB EXPLODE

REMOVE KYLEB'S MODSHIP

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fyp

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i have told this guy that i will obviously pay him. i have a few prop bets that will go out.

bothering me on AIM while drunk and being a moron isn't going to help the process any. let me load up stars like i said. christ.

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You let a prop bet go unpaid for a week and then call the other guy a moron. THis is way out of line.

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qfmft

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so who is this kyleb guy, anyway?

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so who is this kyleb guy, anyway?

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HE WILL FITE YOU

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DELETED FOR PERSONAL IGNORANCE. COWPIG WINS

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bowtoyoursensei,

wtf are you talking about. If I verbally agree to something and shake hands you can be damn sure I will hold up my end of whatever I agreed to. Same should apply to anyone.

Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

Whats the difference between kyleb and grimstarr?

<font color="white">wtf are you highlighting me for? </font>

Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

and in the poker world, there are verbal agreements without paperwork for obscene amounts of money all the time where people just trust each others' word

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Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

1) I'm not flaming anyone

2) Your argument is ridiculous. Kyleb should be 100% trustworthy if he is a mod. Your argument is that the guy was naive to trust him...

Re: Mod Loses Prop Bet, Won\'t Respond To Me
 

While a handshake may or may not be legally binding(I think in some instances it IS in fact binding)

If you have a verbal agreement and shake on it backing out should def take away any merit your "word" has. No matter what your reasons for doing it.

No one with this sort of track record should be trusted with the task of modding a forum.

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1) I'm not flaming anyone

2) Your argument is ridiculous. Kyleb should be 100% trustworthy if he is a mod. Your argument is that the guy was naive to trust him...

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1. i'm not saying you were flaming him

2. i thought this deal was done before he was a mod. my apologies.

admittedly i'm sorta biased cuz i like the guy, but ya, i assumed this was done before his modship. and i guess you could argue that it really wouldn't matter, that this should hold up anyway, i dunno, i just felt like more should have been done than just relying on a handshake.

anyway, i concede.

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BTYS karate chopped by reason?

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BTYS karate chopped by reason?

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pretty much