JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

I got no words to describe MP2. The guy caps hands like A7o pre-flop. He plays any 2 hands hoping to bust someone with strange holdings or backdoor draws.

mp3 was 40/~10 over ~50 hands. I've only seen him raise Ax or 2 high cards.

Titan Limit Hold'em, $0.05/$0.10 (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

Button ($1.67)
SB ($3.07)
BB ($55.77)
MP2 ($1.27)
MP3 ($0.94)
CO ($3.68) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls,

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( 5.2BB )
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls,

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( 9.7BB )
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero ???

Flop thoughts (2 options):
<ul type="square">[*] raise to figure out if MP3 is just continuing his AK trying to pickup the pot or actually has a hand. And hopefully force out MP2[*] call and hope I won't get outdrawn on high cards of by some gutshot of MP2[/list]Turn thoughts:
I don't think the turn could helped anyone. MP2 might have something like QJ that would let him call the flop. MP3 could have nut flush and was building the pot on the flop. But could also have me beaten easily with over pairs. I think I should fold because all I can beat is a draw if it doesn't hit on the river, although the pot is pretty big :s

Thoughts?

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

Since it's low limits i push since the other guy could easisly just be betting hit top pair with hands like J10Q10K10A10 i would push on the turn and hopefully you have the best of it.

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

sorry did not realise it was limit in that case no one is probably going to fold to your reraise just check call down.

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

I think 99 and TT is definetly part of MP3's range, after his raise, and his willingness to three barrel you on the flop. However, alot of people on these stakes want to slowplay their sets, and I think we can discount the sets a little because of this.

I am going to call this turn. If he checks on the river, we can bet/fold, and if he bets we can call.

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

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I am going to call this turn. If he checks on the river, we can bet/fold, and if he bets we can call.

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Say I call the turn and MP2 folds, the river would be 11.5 BB. So if he checks, I bet and he raises you suggest I should fold a 14.5BB pot for 1 bet? I guess either calling his raise or just check it out would be a better play, no?

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

Preflop: Fine to me...

Flop: Fine too

Turn: Don't consider folding. You probably have the best hand. Don't fear a set too much, here. Draws are pushed a lot at this limit.

Calling down is fine here. Even if you actually were against a set, you cannot fold the turn. Most of the times you're ahead.

A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] would be a sucky river card, though.

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

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Turn: Don't consider folding. You probably have the best hand. Don't fear a set too much, here. Draws are pushed a lot at this limit.

Calling down is fine here.

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If we probably have the best hand, why aren't we raising and making MP2 call two cold?

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

3 way you have to call. The other guy isn't going to fold, because he has a draw or top pair and is going to see the end of the hand. Take the equity you have and call down.

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

The word you are looking for is idiot. Or maybe moran.

This is top pair or a flush draw a lot and the idiot is putting dead money in there as well. Raise the turn, if you get 3-bet again call the river, if he just calls bet a blank river.

Re: JJ over pair in 3-way getting pushed hard
 

thats a lot of bets you are throwing in there to blow out MP3?