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13_Xerxes 11-29-2007 10:18 AM

[NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
Villain is a solid 27/17/1.67, maybe a little passiv.
I am playing very nitty.

I call PF to set mine, of course, and I hit a beautiful board. But his 3 bets, so deep is soooo scary :
- overset (99/TT) ?
- big PP who wants to know where he is (but so deep [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ) ?
- semi bluff with a draw ? QJs/78s ?
- AIR ?

Can I fold, must I 4 bets, just call ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($67.60)
BB ($55.40)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($728.05)</font>
MP ($441.95)
CO ($191.70)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($561.40)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $89</font>, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ?

Shizzle12345 11-29-2007 10:22 AM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
you call here about 100% of the time, if you wanna fold here, please fold preflop..

lsaw2 11-29-2007 11:02 AM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
Call, get it in on the turn OR Fold-PF

bilbo-san 11-29-2007 03:25 PM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
Love the set-miners who get scared when they flop sets.

You basically min-raised the flop. And now you are surprised that he's 3-betting you?

Your line looks ridic. full of [censored] and he could be bluffing here a lot.

You should be capable of raising a flop like this with air this deep, and he should know this.

If you aren't capable of that, then you aren't really exploiting your positional advantage enough -- it should be scary as [censored] for him to play OOP this deep.

fees 11-29-2007 03:28 PM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
do not raise this flop if you aren't getting it in, but for [censored] sake GET IT IN!!! id probably just call here and stackoff on turn

Paul Thomson 11-29-2007 03:29 PM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
raise bigger on the flop.

call. i think 4-betting over reps our hand.

jakeduke 11-29-2007 03:35 PM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
as others have said, raise more on the flop and call the 3bet. i don't know why you'd want to fold. all the things you think might be in his range (air, 78/qj, overpair, set) are in his range, so you definitely have enough equity to continue.

sh58 11-29-2007 03:42 PM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
call and look to get it in on the tun

NIT!

Imrahil 11-29-2007 03:43 PM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
Lol you are probably [censored] here.

Unknown Soldier 11-29-2007 04:25 PM

Re: [NL200] Bottom set 280BB deep vs 3 bet on flop. I want to fold.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Call, get it in on the turn OR Fold-PF

[/ QUOTE ]

nope, the two events are not related


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