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Limit_Donkey 11-21-2007 06:42 PM

Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
Since it seems all bonuses & points purchases are deducted from you're monthly rakeback figure there seems little point in the ironman promotion for me. I will achieve Iron Man this month although this is not much of an achievement as I assume most regular players would easily do this as the requirments are very low. I have read posts saying that tournament tokens do not come off your rakeback figure, can anyone confirm this? Also if you collect a heap of points/medals over six months or so and then wait until you receive the rakeback payment can you then purchase items and play on a different site for a month then come back to Fulltilt without losing that proportion of the rakeback or does that deduction hang over you for an unlimited time?

oxiej 11-21-2007 07:04 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
deduction is for unlimited time

Bobo Fett 11-21-2007 07:21 PM

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deduction is for unlimited time

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Not neccessarily, it depends on your affiliate. Many do not carry negative balances forward to a new month.

Limit_Donkey 11-21-2007 07:30 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
Do you know of Rakeback Nation is one of these?

Bobo Fett 11-21-2007 07:48 PM

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Do you know of Rakeback Nation is one of these?

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No idea. I'd suggest either asking them, or posting about it in the Affiliates/Rakeback forum and see if anyone there knows.

johnnyrocket 11-21-2007 09:56 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
i posted on this about a week ago, it will deduct from your future rakeback, however if u save up on the site til u decide to take the money off, wait til ur rakeback comes, then use the points and u will make off well and not have to pay back the subtraction

Donkey5layer 11-27-2007 11:00 AM

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i posted on this about a week ago, it will deduct from your future rakeback, however if u save up on the site til u decide to take the money off, wait til ur rakeback comes, then use the points and u will make off well and not have to pay back the subtraction

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OK just to clarify because most of this is stuff i have never paid attention to before... If i wait to the day my rake hits my account then use the ironman medals and convert to a 600 bonus or convert to points then it wont count towards my next month rake?? If this is not correct can you clarify please

hime 11-27-2007 12:19 PM

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Points don't count until they're used. Bonus counts as it is earned.

Donkey5layer 11-27-2007 02:10 PM

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Points don't count until they're used. Bonus counts as it is earned.

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Ok thanks.. now lets say I use my 400k points for a plasma tv how much wile that hurt my rakeback the next month? I use ultimatepals

Suigin406 11-27-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
.005 x the number of pts, so 400K x .005 = 2000

this 2000 gets deducteed 100% from ur MGR, and it results in a 27% dedcution from ur RB payment for the month's play, or $540 in money u lose out on

34TheTruth34 11-27-2007 03:07 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
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.005 x the number of pts, so 400K x .005 = 2000

this 2000 gets deducteed 100% from ur MGR, and it results in a 27% dedcution from ur RB payment for the month's play, or $540 in money u lose out on

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so basically there's no point in using all the Full Tilt points and Iron Man medals to get cool stuff because it's pretty much just the same as buying it yourself? Or am I looking at this incorrectly? This is so disappointing. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Donkey5layer 11-27-2007 03:08 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
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.005 x the number of pts, so 400K x .005 = 2000

this 2000 gets deducteed 100% from ur MGR, and it results in a 27% dedcution from ur RB payment for the month's play, or $540 in money u lose out on

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so basically there's no point in using all the Full Tilt points and Iron Man medals to get cool stuff because it's pretty much just the same as buying it yourself? Or am I looking at this incorrectly? This is so disappointing. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Well the 400k tv looks to cost 1300 online so really i saved about $750 by using

Suigin406 11-27-2007 03:10 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
remember, while it gets deducted full from the MGR, ur only getting 27% of that, so ur only losing 27% of the value of the item as well, if that makes sense...

Donkey5layer 11-27-2007 03:13 PM

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remember, while it gets deducted full from the MGR, ur only getting 27% of that, so ur only losing 27% of the value of the item as well, if that makes sense...

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you lost me at remember

so my above post is incorrect?

34TheTruth34 11-27-2007 03:14 PM

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remember, while it gets deducted full from the MGR, ur only getting 27% of that, so ur only losing 27% of the value of the item as well, if that makes sense...

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yeah, you're right, but it just doesn't seem like such a great reward when I get this great new big shiny HD Plasma TV for my play at FT and then don't get a rakeback payment the next month.

Donkey5layer 11-27-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
Also if you want cash full tilt is a better program with rakeback... good for br building... BUT if you are not building a br but grinding a lot and want to use points to get things like tvs there must be break even point where stars program becomes a better value than ft because of how fast you can accumulate points and the points to buy items are less on stars... i understand this is because of rakeback, but does anyone know what that point may be where its a better value to play stars?

Suigin406 11-27-2007 05:29 PM

Re: Fulltilt Rakeback & IronMan
 
D5, u were correct in the other post, i was just being a term nerd...

34, meh, it's a business model, nothing that we can do about it, sux, but it's how it is i guess

D5, there have been a few threads trying to estimate how much RB the FPP's give at the different levels, there was a wide range, but it was less than 30% in most estimations i think...remember, ftp doesn't require u to trade in ur pts for RB, but it's just a matter of preference with regards to game selection, which site u feel more comfortable on, etc...there really is no 'point' where it is better to play on one site than another, there are plenty of people on ftp who have a br already


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