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praios 11-27-2007 05:52 PM

good bluff spot?
 
$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$171.85</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$111.85</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$124.80</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$111.85</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$190.50</font>)

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 5 players) Hero is BTN A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls $1, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $3.5

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $10.5</font>, Hero calls $10.5

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $31.5</font>,

schuld hero move AI here? villian is playing 38/5/1.6/13. he inst potts both streets

Rob121 11-27-2007 05:55 PM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
if hes seen you smooth call the nut flush on the flop or turn before i dont think its bad at all. i usually like history before i try something like this. your hand might even be good here. im thinking calling might be b etter than raising sometimes

sondring 11-27-2007 05:55 PM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
don't know about the river but bet the flop.

Tartufo 11-27-2007 07:56 PM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
I don't mind checking this flop every now and then, having only a few nut outs. Raising the turn is also an option.

However in general I like to have a bit of a read of whether a player is capable of folding flushes before investing a whole stack in a naked A bluff.

praios 11-28-2007 11:02 AM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
year given the fakt that he insta pots turn and river my thought was that he probably would not fold K or Q high flush so i let it go

TimberBee 11-28-2007 11:41 AM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
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don't know about the river but bet the flop.

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Hattifnatt 11-28-2007 11:45 AM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
bet flop and fold river, dont think calling is profitable and I doubt that he will give you credit for the A-flush with your line if he has a smaller one. raising the turn is not a good idea either given your flop check imo.

Tartufo 11-28-2007 02:32 PM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
Raising the turn is not a good idea if you habitually bet the flop with a nut flush draw and your opponent knows that (you should bet it a certain % of the time of course, but the issue now is your opponent's perception of how you'd play the nfd).
But many players still think in terms of "draw - passive", "made hand-aggressive", and thus I don't think he will automatically discard the nut flush if you raise the turn.
But like I said, whether he's going to lay down a lower flush is hard to say.

Elrazor 11-29-2007 05:58 AM

Re: good bluff spot?
 
i actually think you see a straight flush here a small % of the time and hes just really hoping you have the Ace.

some smart **** decided to check raise me once on the river with a s/f when i actually had the A flush - i thought this was a very clever play as by checking he had the chance of me bluffing with a bace ace, and still gets paid off if i have the ace flush


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