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frtz 11-21-2007 08:39 AM

JJ 3bet pot
 
villain was standard tag

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $394
SB: $622.10
BB: $62
UTG: $455.50
Hero (CO): $811.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $52</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($108) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $64</font>, Hero calls $64

Turn: ($236) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($236) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $148</font>, Hero ?

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fold pre? fold flop? bet turn? fold river? im lost :/

Bikini Wax 11-21-2007 08:44 AM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
looks good, now fold river

pf/flop standard with no reads

Laetus 11-21-2007 08:47 AM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
Ya, looks good to me if you fold river.

simuk 11-21-2007 12:57 PM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
Is preflop fold really that standard?

cbboy 11-21-2007 01:06 PM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
Is preflop fold really that standard?

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No. Who said it was...?

overAchiever 11-21-2007 01:16 PM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
I often call here, depends on agression frequency of opponent mostly, I would say it is pretty close, though would be easier call of there were more likely draws on the flop that missed ... he offered you good odds but maybe on purpose ?!?

overAchiever 11-21-2007 01:19 PM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
NOw that I think about it, and read other responses maybe fold is better, if he had AK, or AJ he would likely just check it for showdown value and not turn his hand into a bluff, I guess for the most part you can only beat bluffs as it is unlikely he would value bet anything here that you beat ....

JFsports 11-21-2007 01:20 PM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
I like your line, and I would fold the river.

Suwalski 11-21-2007 01:21 PM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Is preflop fold really that standard?

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No. Who said it was...?

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I think preflop is fairly standard, if we 4bet, we're basically bluffing, cause i don't think that he will get it AI with anything we beat 150bbs deep. Furthermore we have position and it will be easier for us to control the hand on later streets. Folding JJ in the CO to a 3bet from the blinds is just way too weak!

I think you need a better read than "standard tag" to be able to call this river.

whorasaurus 11-21-2007 01:21 PM

Re: JJ 3bet pot
 
I think betting 150 on the turn works ok too. After that, I'm not putting another dollar in the pot tho.


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