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pfapfap 11-08-2007 07:15 PM

NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $26.25
UTG+1: $25
MP1: $25
MP2: $19
MP3: $16.20
CO: $24.40
Gyro: $41.45
SB: $30.15
BB: $13.35

Pre-flop: (9 players) Gyro is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#cc0000">Gyro raises to $1</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Gyro bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $5.25</font>, Gyro calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $8.25</font>, Gyro calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($29.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $15.65</font>, Gyro calls.

Way wrong? What would you do? When do you fold this?

L0QTiS 11-08-2007 07:23 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
As played, I think you have to call - but I think I'd rather 3-bet the flop re-evaluate if 4-bet. No reads?

da_fume 11-08-2007 07:25 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
I'd prob felt it on the flop given it's button vs SB.

RelentlessD 11-08-2007 07:26 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
I would have re-raised flop. Other than a set, we have to be ahead here. If he has a set at flop, he's going to get all your money most likely anyway and you cant do a whole lot about that.

The Rat Pack 11-08-2007 07:31 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
With no other info about the villian I usually 3 bet the flop. Do you usually just flat call the check raise?

I usually 3 bet and stack off, you could be behind, but often you will see some idiot with 99, TT, JJ, maybe A8. I think the only reason to flat call the flop if is you think he could be pure bluffing and you want to induce a turn bluff, and then push on turn. Usually Im looking to get it all in w AA on a board like this.

King Spew 11-08-2007 07:33 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
I repop to about $12 on the flop. The hand plays differently after that.

As played, I let it go on this river bet. Rarely will a 25NL villain bet over $15 as a bluff.

pfapfap 11-08-2007 07:36 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
I didn't three-bet the flop because I'm bad at poker. I also wanted him to bet again, since no draws were particularly scary. I planned to call him down the whole way, but I wasn't sure I was right to think I was likely ahead.

Results? He had T9o. I'll save you the scroll and tell you it doesn't match anything on the board.

L0QTiS 11-08-2007 07:44 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
veiled "I won with AA" brag - next time post in BBV [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

pfapfap 11-08-2007 07:49 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
Uh, no, I felt bad calling the whole way. I'm not results-oriented. Are only losing hands supposed to be posted here? I thought the goal was to improve, and I probably have more to learn from my winners, as it's easier for me to analyze my own losers. I'd much rather be told that I was an idiot and got lucky than go on thinking I played masterfully and deserved the pot.

Steelerman 11-08-2007 07:52 PM

Re: NL25 - Did I completely botch AA?
 
Interesting hand. Did you have any stats on villain? If a tight player calls you preflop and check raises you on that board it's a set 104% of the time.

Against a looser player or just a general donk the flop is definitely a 3-bet.


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