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manupod 11-20-2007 08:35 PM

Insane or a genius?
 
42/16/5- pf might be questionable but I have position, lets take the initiative, too. Flop check is questionable. Turn bet was so big that folding felt ok but calling didn't...if he's drawing, let him get it in when he wants to was my thought. And with a pair + OESD I'm not in that bad of shape if I'm called- especially since he can and will have worse.


1/2

BB ($128.47)
UTG ($49.76)
MP ($264.57)
CO ($141.74)
Hero ($221.21)
SB ($302.36)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $10.

Flop: ($33) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($33) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $148</font>

I raised him all-ii, he started the hand w/ $141

Fletcher19 11-20-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
looks good, shoving and folding the turn is probably neutral EV but we like to GAMMBOOLL

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 09:37 PM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
Looks fine, I think he'll fold enough times for this to be profitable.

Speedlimits 11-20-2007 09:40 PM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
i actually like a flop check more after thinking about it. nh

bubaloo 11-20-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
i like this, i think flop chk is good as it allows him to bet pp's or random air (pretty much the same thing) on the turn. shove is good, 8 clean outs to nuts, maybe 13 slightly dirty ones.

spicybucknuts 11-20-2007 11:57 PM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
I may be in the minority here but I dont like this. I hope taht I'm not seeing monsters but he looks very strong to me here. Typically, when I see no action on the flop and then a pot-sized bet on a blank this means that the player wants to build the pot or, if it's on the river, get as much in with his strong hand as possible.

I don't think he's ever folding a Q and I think anything less than a Q has a tough time calling, even though your line looks FOS or a slowplayed AK. If you think a large part of his range is a bluff, i like calling the turn. An added benefit of this is that if you hit on the river the card will be very scary and will allow him to continue with his bluffs.

Also, I bet flop. Heh maybe i just play bad? I do like the RR pf though esp. against a player with his stats.

jk3a 11-21-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
def spew

Floyd13 11-21-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
If villian can hand read at all this is horrible. Any good hand you're betting on the flop, and the turn 6 changed nothing. If he's a donkey, which judging by his stats he is, then it's not too bad. Problem here is he probably doesn't have a fold button.

Noam Chomsky 11-21-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
Insane or a genius?

Neither really. It's just sort of....meh.

nath 11-21-2007 01:28 AM

Re: Insane or a genius?
 
vs. a dude with those stats I often call turn / call river


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