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thatpfunk 02-02-2007 04:29 PM

Judge my fold equity
 
im usually viewed as laggy but the tables kinda new. villian seems avg but mostly because i dont think hes showed down anything and hasnt gone crazy. oh and stacks are a bit bigger than normal.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($280.85)</font>
SB ($207)
BB ($197.15)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($417.20)</font>
MP ($40.30)
CO ($197)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $56</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises villians remaining 215 or calls and plays poker on the turn?

faded 02-02-2007 04:31 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
i'm pushing

Abramovic 02-02-2007 04:31 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
I dont think you have a lot of fold equity here, but push is still good.

cbboy 02-02-2007 04:49 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
[ QUOTE ]
I dont think you have a lot of fold equity here, but push is still good.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with this. Might as well get the money in the middle when you have a lot of equity vs. his range (as opposed to the turn where your equity decreases dramatically).

thatpfunk 02-02-2007 05:00 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
i dont think his range is that big- 33, 88, J8, A8hh the majority of the time and random draw/bluff sometimes?

normally i love getting it in, i just dont think his range is all that big with the pf action and board texture. and his range vs my equity ends up being pretty crappy.

MasterLJ 02-02-2007 05:02 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
FE is probably 3-5% &gt;. FWIW I'm pushing too.

Btw, raising to $215 is bad. It's push or fold.

Abramovic 02-02-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
Any stats on villain? I just noticed we're slightly deep. Do you think he would cold call A8hh from button?

We have fold equity against his TP hands, but none against sets. We may even move a bigger flush draw off the hand (if he only has the flush draw).

thatpfunk 02-02-2007 06:40 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
"FE is probably 3-5% &gt;. FWIW I'm pushing too.
Btw, raising to $215 is bad. It's push or fold. "

a raise of 215 puts the villian all in.

it s DEFINETLY not push or fold. it is push or call 99% of the time. im getting over 5:1 implied. i have 3 super well hidden outs, people dont like to fold against me. if you think the FE is that low than it should go
call&gt;&gt;push&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;fold. however i think his FE is just a bit higher than that.


"Any stats on villain? I just noticed we're slightly deep. Do you think he would cold call A8hh from button?"

no stats however i wouldn't put it past him. i think a set and AJ we see a bit more often than A8 and J8 but they are realistic possibilities.

Wu36 02-02-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
if he folds aj, kj i push if not id rather call.

MasterLJ 02-02-2007 06:46 PM

Re: Judge my fold equity
 
K, besides your 3 hidden outs, are you getting paid if that 3rd heart hits?

That's why I think it's push or fold.


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