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brian64 10-05-2007 11:44 AM

PLo8 nut draws worth a call?
 
Villain1 usually bets pot when he has something. No read on Villain2.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.02 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP1 ($3.41)
MP2 ($1.47)
CO ($1.83)
Button ($12.84)
Hero ($2.73)
BB ($1.13)
UTG :#A500AF(Villain2)/ ($3)
UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villain1)/ ($2.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG :#A500AF(Villain2)/ posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG :#A500AF(Villain2)/ (poster) checks, UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villain1)/ calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.14) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.04</font>, Villain2 calls $0.04, <font color="#CC3333">Villain1 raises to $0.3</font>, MP1 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $0.30, BB folds, Villain2 calls $0.26.

Turn: ($1.08) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain1 bets $1.03</font>, Hero??

On the flop, I put Villain1 on a set of Kings. I thought the nut low draw and backdoor draws might make it worth a call. If I make the low on the turn, I'll have a good chance to freeroll with a straight or flush draw. Worth a call on the flop?

On the turn, I have nut draws both ways, but Villain2 may split the low if I am reading it right. So maybe I lose even more if a low non-club hits on the river. Fold, call, or raise?

RobNottsUk 10-08-2007 07:26 AM

Re: PLo8 nut draws worth a call?
 
As this has been missed, I'll comment though I'm not a PLO8 regular player.

On the turn, you're on a draw, and your opponent is unlikely to fold a set, so you should keep implied odds and hope to hit something like the 6c or Tc; a fold might be a better play against someone who doesn't pay off, or will show you A3KK in this spot.

I doubt, your flop call is good; you're in the middle between a mini-bettor and a raiser and you're drawing to 1/2 or less of the pot, unless you catch a club.

BlueBear 10-08-2007 07:31 AM

Re: PLo8 nut draws worth a call?
 
Fold on the flop. You're drawing to half the pot with very little potential to scoop.

brian64 10-08-2007 08:49 AM

Re: PLo8 nut draws worth a call?
 
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Fold on the flop. You're drawing to half the pot with very little potential to scoop.

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This is the biggest leak in my game. I have cut down on these kinds of calls, but for some reason I have trouble laying down A3 when the flop contains a 2.


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