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terp 07-01-2007 08:52 PM

wherein i get cute with aces
 
villain is 20/0/3 after a few dozen hands. so basically disregard this. no read on his limp/calling range or postflop style as table has been fairly passive.

i figured i was going to get two streets of value from pocket pairs as it was and this might induce him to turn those and air into bluffs. thus, i can get value from ALL of his range, potentially.

is this too much of a reach without a read?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $31.70
Hero (BB): $101.45
UTG: $101.40
MP: $86.15
CO: $180.95
BTN: $103.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 3 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, UTG calls $5.00, SB folds

Flop: ($13) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($13) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $40.00</font>, Hero calls $31.00

River: ($93) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $55.40</font>, Hero calls $55.40

Pot Size: $203.80 ($3 Rake)

Unknown Soldier 07-01-2007 08:54 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
i dont see why he would raise he turn w/ a pp i dont like readless. I'd fold the turn, i know it's weak but even if he is bluffing i don't think you can profitably call down

gimmetheloot 07-01-2007 08:55 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
no. but dont be surprised to see A2

Speedlimits 07-01-2007 08:58 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
This is pretty marginal but I like it.

jkkkk 07-01-2007 09:33 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
ugh, this is the first hand I've read today thats confused me, I sometimes fold the turn, really depends on read though.

I really dislike not betting the flop here, that turn spot is disgusting, yep, you def butchered this hand on the flop.

Speedlimits 07-01-2007 09:37 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
[ QUOTE ]
ugh, this is the first hand I've read today thats confused me, I sometimes fold the turn, really depends on read though.

I really dislike not betting the flop here, that turn spot is disgusting, yep, you def butchered this hand on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

flop play is EV+. READ ISURAS BLOG AND YOU'D KNOW.

epdaws 07-01-2007 10:13 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
I'd guess you're crushed a lot here; Villain is calling down with a hand like 55. I don't see the point in his turn raise with a smaller pair you're beating.

terp 07-01-2007 11:16 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
this isn't a brag; i always post results. i decided right away i was going to try something different with this and see how it turned out.

the board was extremely benign and i figured enough of his range was air (non pocket pairs) that there might be more value in tricking him into bluffing with these than trying to milk a small PP. keep in mind there are exactly four cards in the deck (other than 77) that beat me and zero combos of A2s.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $31.70
Hero (BB): $101.45
UTG: $101.40
MP: $86.15
CO: $180.95
BTN: $103.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 3 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, UTG calls $5.00, SB folds

Flop: ($13) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($13) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $40.00</font>, Hero calls $31.00

River: ($93) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $55.40</font>, Hero calls $55.40

Pot Size: $203.80 ($3 Rake)

UTG had 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ([6c 9c] two pair, Kings and Twos) and LOST (-$101.40)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and WON (+$99.40)

Speedlimits 07-01-2007 11:19 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
so sick.

coldcallchris 07-01-2007 11:21 PM

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 
this is wp


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