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tcorbin16 11-30-2007 08:12 AM

25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
villian is durrrr. this hand took place before the other hand i posted. He and i have both been very active preflop.

I dont think he has 4 bet me though this match, whereas i have prob 4 bet him 5-10 times, with him shoving once with liek jj and folding the rest.

Full Tilt Poker, $25/$50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $12,497.50
BB: $27,328.75

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $150</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $475</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1,475</font>, BB calls $1,000

Flop: ($2,950) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1,850</font>, BB calls $1,850

Turn: ($6,650) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6,650) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2,420</font>, <font color="red">Hero ...?</font>

~10k eff on river. Who calls, who folds, who shoves, who raises?

also how does the line look prior, flop turn etc?

timex 11-30-2007 08:20 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
Table select better

SeriAce 11-30-2007 08:21 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
that doesnt even look like a fakeblockbet

and its flowdependant but i really think u can get looked up by a pretty wide range of hands when u raise it to 8k here

i dont like shove and hate folding

tcorbin16 11-30-2007 08:22 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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Table select better

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but i was bored!

Nielsio 11-30-2007 08:24 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
I'd call and sit out.

CopTHIS 11-30-2007 08:29 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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I'd call and sit out.

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riverboatking 11-30-2007 08:40 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
bet turn.
call river.

it must be very hard to double barrel effectively if checking this turn is your default play.

durrrr 11-30-2007 08:49 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
fwiw, i think hes somewhere between pretty good and very good- and tcorbin probably knows this

edit: but i also dont have tonsa info on him and i'd assume he knows this

luegofuego 11-30-2007 10:18 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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that doesnt even look like a fakeblockbet

and its flowdependant but i really think u can get looked up by a pretty wide range of hands when u raise it to 8k here

i dont like shove and hate folding

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Stinger88 11-30-2007 10:23 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
I think I'm shoving. You guys realize he has ~9k left right? I also mostly bet the turn.

luegofuego 11-30-2007 10:28 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
did not realize that. i am also shoving.

Terkman 11-30-2007 10:29 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
bet turn must be a better way to extract value against a worse hand than raising blank river? Or is this just because of durrrs river betsizing?

SeriAce 11-30-2007 10:33 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
oh ok nevermind the 8k, shove

80sSynthPop 11-30-2007 11:12 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
If you checked the turn to induce a thin bet or bluff on the river, then I'd say you just got it.

But wtf do I know; my bankroll is your opening raise. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Requin 11-30-2007 11:16 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
I'd call, but I'd be betting the turn

TheWorstPlayer 11-30-2007 11:34 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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I'd shove and sit out.

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jfish 11-30-2007 01:30 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
what a [censored] sicko.

jfish 11-30-2007 01:31 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
i dont see any merit to shoving though, i just call.

raptor517 11-30-2007 01:41 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
wtf is wrong with you people? how can this possibly be anything but a snapshove? and sit out? are u crazy? he will get so mad after u snap shove here that he will monkey off the rest of his moneys.

Gary Stevenson 11-30-2007 02:04 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
looks like a shove tc. and like i said to you on aim, "seriously, durrrr?"

recallme 11-30-2007 02:09 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
I think we checked turn to induce a bluff, what happened now e should just snapcall.

What`s your reason for shoving? I doubt this is +EV.

Stinger88 11-30-2007 02:56 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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I think we checked turn to induce a bluff, what happened now e should just snapcall.

What`s your reason for shoving? I doubt this is +EV.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the reason for shoving might be to get value from worse hands.

durrrr 11-30-2007 03:06 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
heh... really relevant info- which he didnt know- is at the time i thought he was prahlad =(

Lefort 11-30-2007 03:13 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
Shove with love.

EmpireMaker2 11-30-2007 03:16 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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wtf is wrong with you people? how can this possibly be anything but a snapshove? and sit out? are u crazy? he will get so mad after u snap shove here that he will monkey off the rest of his moneys.

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innerpeace 11-30-2007 03:47 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
bet turn. as played push river, especially since you only have about 9k left.

AceCR9 11-30-2007 03:48 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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Table select better

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but i was tilted

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FYP

CrushinFelt 11-30-2007 05:18 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
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heh... really relevant info- which he didnt know- is at the time i thought he was prahlad =(

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Sooooo you are vbetting with A high and will snap call with A high

tcorbin16 11-30-2007 06:45 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
lol i wasnt tilted... if i was tilted i wouldnt play durrrr of all people. heh

Ship Ship McGipp 11-30-2007 07:18 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
bet the turn
shove the river
profit

spexel 11-30-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
insta shove

imabigdeal 11-30-2007 08:50 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
well now that i know he thought you were prahlad i guess i have to say shove but i kind of cheated

tcorbin16 12-01-2007 09:31 PM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
why does everyone say bet the turn....? what exactly do u expect to get value outta?

MasterLJ 12-02-2007 12:33 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
Given that you didn't bet turn you have to push river since your hand is completely under-repped but I really think you should bet turn, bet river.

RockyElsom 12-02-2007 01:03 AM

Re: 25/50 HU durrrrrrrr again
 
I don't think shovings nearly as good as what people say it is, having said that its still probably the most +EV


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