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Worm75 09-02-2007 02:33 AM

KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by street
 
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $15.75
BB: $33.95
Hero (UTG): $24.65
MP: $42.05
CO: $58.10
BTN: $21.30

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is a pretty standard 25nl villain, no real history with, but 240 datamined hands 28/10/2.

I am running around 23/20/inf in the 30 or so hands i've been at the table.</font>

I've lately had a problem with hands such as these, OOP and am looking for what we consider a good line here to take Postflop.

I will post action street by street, and hopefully we get some decent feedback.

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, MP calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero???

SkeetyMcdoogle 09-02-2007 02:50 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
Hero quite standardly bets 2.75-3.00

orig!naL 09-02-2007 03:21 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
lead flop for 2.5

huhwhatyousay? 09-02-2007 03:34 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
bet $2.80

wingchunflush 09-02-2007 04:24 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
i lead for 2.75

mookboi 09-02-2007 04:28 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
I bet 2.85

Worm75 09-02-2007 04:32 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

OK betting flop is standard and not that interesting, although I don't remember betting quite so much, I must have used the Pot button, which I almost never do. Turn bricked for us, what is our line now. I have some thoughts, but will share after some responses.

SB: $15.75
BB: $33.95
Hero (UTG): $24.65
MP: $42.05
CO: $58.10
BTN: $21.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, MP calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.35</font>, MP calls $3.35, CO folds

Turn: ($10.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ??

wingchunflush 09-02-2007 04:38 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
I bet around $8...what else are we going to do, check let him bet and fold?

SkeetyMcdoogle 09-02-2007 10:19 AM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
Hero leads for 8, calls a shove

Worm75 09-02-2007 12:29 PM

Re: KQs....Big draw on the flop for me, help me play this street by st
 
SB: $15.75
BB: $33.95
Hero (UTG): $24.65
MP: $42.05
CO: $58.10
BTN: $21.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, MP calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.35</font>, MP calls $3.35, CO folds

Turn: ($10.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $10.05</font>,

I don't really like leading at the pot here for a couple of reasons.

1) Our equity in the hand has dropped quite a bit from the flop where vs JJ we are a 54/46 favorite. Now vs a single pair hand we are a 66/34 dog.

2) I think leading out has nowhere near the FE of a CRAI.

3) CRAI gives us a free card to hit the nuts if he checks behind, and great FE if he leads out for standard 2/3rds pot on the turn.

Unfortunately he leads out for full pot, which makes My CRAI far less effective here. Hero's line now??


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