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KRANTZ 07-17-2007 10:24 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
2 probably worked, 3 might have worked, doubtful 1 worked

but these hands are so [censored] alien that i could be way off

MATT111 07-17-2007 10:26 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
1) Pretty standard bluff given your preflop play (which I dont like in a vacuum). We should consider waiting till the river as well.

2) I hate the play overall as villain rarely folds to the flop raise and a lot of cards complete possible draws. As played the turn bet is good. I like a call flop/raise-bluff turn plan better. Still I would usually just fold the flop.

3) Looks like a dark tunnel bluff to me. What were you putting him on?

TheWorstPlayer 07-17-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
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2 probably worked, 3 might have worked, doubtful 1 worked

but these hands are so [censored] alien that i could be way off

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You really think these are so alien? You just fold flop in all hands or what? You're a lot better than I am, but two of them worked (and similar hands have worked in the past) so I'm not sure what to make of that.

JooWish622 07-17-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
i think just hand 1, but maybe 3 if villain has any sense, which is not likely given the 24 dollar flop bet.

why is the river in hand 3 a scare card????


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1.)
On which handrange to you put villian on? (PP's taht hate to see the A here???)
The prob is, that many draws are out there an the Q shouldn't me a big scarecard here. But I'm not sure. :P
Another question... do you think every spade that turns or rivers is a good bluffout for us?


2.)
Again the question... on which range do yo put villian?
The turn is again not a really scarecard that will most of the time not helped you.
Do you try to get a fold from a QJs-type hand?


3.)
hm i am not sure about the river bluff... villian is getting such good odds to call and showed on a board w/o many draws that he is willing to play
also the river is again to scarecard.
I like Flop and Turn but at the river i would give up.


Nice post i hope to get some feedback.

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TheWorstPlayer 07-17-2007 10:34 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
think he meant 'again no scarecard'

MATT111 07-17-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
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but two of them worked

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You were definitely ahead in hand2 and sometimes even in the other 2 in case villain folded.

KRANTZ 07-17-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
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2 probably worked, 3 might have worked, doubtful 1 worked

but these hands are so [censored] alien that i could be way off

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You really think these are so alien? You just fold flop in all hands or what? You're a lot better than I am, but two of them worked (and similar hands have worked in the past) so I'm not sure what to make of that.

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the 1st one is... overexaggerated a bit on the other two

TheWorstPlayer 07-17-2007 10:39 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
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but two of them worked

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You were definitely ahead in hand2 and sometimes even in the other 2 in case villain folded.

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LOL. Good one.

TheWorstPlayer 07-17-2007 10:39 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
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2 probably worked, 3 might have worked, doubtful 1 worked

but these hands are so [censored] alien that i could be way off

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You really think these are so alien? You just fold flop in all hands or what? You're a lot better than I am, but two of them worked (and similar hands have worked in the past) so I'm not sure what to make of that.

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the 1st one is... overexaggerated a bit on the other two

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You fold hand 1 preflop?

JooWish622 07-17-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Bluffs: Which ones worked?
 
i don't get it, his hand looks like KK or JJ and our hand looks like AQ AK.. hand 1 seems the best

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First one looks the worst to me unless you have history with him where you've flatcalled reraises with Ax hands. If he folded here then he either had air or he played it bad.

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