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Schneids 07-25-2007 12:17 AM

i forgot rule #1
 
which is...

PLAY THE RUSH

PokerStars Game #11121086974: Hold'em Limit ($100/$200) - 2007/07/25 - 00:10:43 (ET)
Table 'Justitia V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: doughnutz ($9176 in chips)
Seat 3: ScHnibL0r ($6732 in chips)
Seat 4: papawhitt ($8374.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Minh Tai ($3900 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($11416 in chips)
Minh Tai: posts small blind $50
PapaWarbucks: posts big blind $100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [7d 7h]
doughnutz: raises $100 to $200
ScHnibL0r: raises $100 to $300
papawhitt: folds
Minh Tai: raises $100 to $400
Betting is capped
PapaWarbucks: folds
doughnutz: calls $200
PokerSnoopy has returned
ScHnibL0r: calls $100
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6c 7c]
Minh Tai: bets $100
doughnutz: calls $100
ScHnibL0r: calls $100
*** TURN *** [Qd 6c 7c] [7s]
Minh Tai: bets $200
doughnutz: raises $200 to $400
ScHnibL0r: folds
Minh Tai: raises $200 to $600
doughnutz: calls $200
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6c 7c 7s] [Kc]
Minh Tai: bets $200
doughnutz: raises $200 to $400
Minh Tai: raises $200 to $600
doughnutz: raises $200 to $800
Betting is capped
Minh Tai: calls $200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
doughnutz: shows [Kd Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
Minh Tai: shows [6d 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Sevens)
doughnutz collected $4398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4400 | Rake $2
Board [Qd 6c 7c 7s Kc]
Seat 1: doughnutz showed [Kd Ks] and won ($4398) with a full house, Kings full of Sevens
Seat 3: ScHnibL0r folded on the Turn
Seat 4: papawhitt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Minh Tai (small blind) showed [6d 6h] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Sevens
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (big blind) folded before Flop

wazz 07-25-2007 12:19 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
I thought it was 'you don't talk about fight club'

Is this fold standard for limit?

Schneids 07-25-2007 12:22 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I did the math like 4 years ago and to play a hand like this for set value alone it's not profitable unless you get the dreamiest of boards and setups.

SkeetyMcdoogle 07-25-2007 12:23 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
Schneids I think I found the dreamiest of boards and setups

Schneids 07-25-2007 12:27 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I did the math like 4 years ago and to play a hand like this for set value alone it's not profitable unless you get the dreamiest of boards and setups.

[/ QUOTE ]

To expand on that, putting in 2 more bets with a pocket pair, for set value, was very marginal-barely +EV in normal-aggro game conditions...so 3 bets cold is going to be -EV.

ImsaKidd 07-25-2007 12:31 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
Rule #1:

DONT FOLD A PAIR IN LIMIT [censored] HOLD THEM

SkeetyMcdoogle 07-25-2007 12:33 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
so schneids since its only me and you in here let me run a hypothetical situation by you

Lets say I play nl50, am a marginal loser, and take no heed to math, odds, or even logic really when I play cards

how would I do in a game like limit?

disjunction 07-25-2007 12:35 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty sure I did the math like 4 years ago and to play a hand like this for set value alone it's not profitable unless you get the dreamiest of boards and setups.

[/ QUOTE ]

To expand on that, putting in 2 more bets with a pocket pair, for set value, was very marginal-barely +EV in normal-aggro game conditions...so 3 bets cold is going to be -EV.

[/ QUOTE ]

Putting in 3 SB with 13SB already in the pot. I think a set is 7.5 to 1 IIRC so you'll need to get 8 more SB in. Maybe this will happen, but I think the main worry, actually, is with all that raising, overpairs are seeing all 5 cards and who knows if your set will even hold.

disjunction 07-25-2007 12:37 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
[ QUOTE ]
Rule #1:

DONT FOLD A PAIR IN LIMIT [censored] HOLD THEM

[/ QUOTE ]

UNLESS YOU ARE AN ADVANCED PLAYER LIKE PHIL LAAK AND PLAYING AGAINST TEH MACHINES. DONT LISTEN TO JENNIFER TILLY PHIL WHAT DOES SHE KNOW ABOUT BIG LAYDOWNS

[ QUOTE ]

July 24th - 3:38 PM PST
Phil +$1290 (488 hands played)
Big Hand. Hand 488 sees Laak dealt pocket Kc Kd. Phil raises - Polaris calls. Flop comes Qh 2h 4d. Phil raises again, and Polaris just calls. Ac hits on the turn and Phil pauses. Tilly chimes in from the crowd saying Polaris may know the ace is a scare card. Phil folds his Kings and and his lead is down to $1290.

[/ QUOTE ]

bigticket 07-27-2007 04:52 AM

Re: i forgot rule #1
 
That Minh Tai guy was at my 2/4 table tonight bought in for $24 ...Busto? Wasn't he a 100/200 regular or no?

I like the guys style , runs up $24 to 106 and then insta jumps to 5/10 ..obv going to be back at 100/200 very shortly.


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