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Takeover_inc 09-13-2007 07:41 PM

Borgata like poker chips???
 
Does anyone know where borgata gets there chips from?

Or what would be a good clay chip that is one solid color?

Thanks

sirpupnyc 09-13-2007 09:49 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
They're Bud Jones chips.

jackb88 09-13-2007 09:53 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
I believe that the touney chips are Paulson Hat & Cane.

Annorax 09-13-2007 11:12 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
Borg's cash chips are Bud Jones. You're not getting those custom made anywhere, and used cash chips will cost an arm, two legs, and your first three children, plus eBay fees, for a 300 chip set with unusable color ratios and a retarded casino logo.

If jackb88's first post is right (and I'm nowhere near the Borg, so I'll take his word for it), you also can't get the old TH&C molds made for your chips anymore. If you want Paulson TH&Cs, you'll have to either buy used chips from a casino or someone who got a custom set made before they stopped making customs on the good mold. They'll cost a ton, but not as much as Bud Jones used chips... possibly even a leg or a kid less.

Takeover_inc 09-13-2007 11:13 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
thanks a lot

Dima2000123 09-14-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
How much would it cost to buy that company and make sure they never ever produce those kinds of chips again?

BrianBigNFun 09-14-2007 07:28 AM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
ugh, you like Borgata's cash chips?!! They stick together as if they were magnetic.

jcmoussa 09-14-2007 09:04 AM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
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ugh, you like Borgata's cash chips?!! They stick together as if they were magnetic.

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thats exactly what they are

SellingtheDrama 09-14-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
I may not be a big fan of the Borgata chips, but at least they stick together for a far better reason than Taj chips.

KidFresh 09-14-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
There's a slight concave on each side of the chips which creates an air vacumm when they're stacked one over the other. This makes them slightly stick. I've cracked one in half and there is no magnet in it.

BBMW 09-14-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
I don't buy that. In certain positions they repel. Also the attraction/repulsion effect gets stronger with several chips stacked. I gotta think there are magnets in there somewhere.

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There's a slight concave on each side of the chips which creates an air vacumm when they're stacked one over the other. This makes them slightly stick. I've cracked one in half and there is no magnet in it.

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BrianBigNFun 09-14-2007 01:06 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
Ive never had a Borgata chip repel (except from me?), if they were magnetic half of your stack wouldnt sit right as every magnet has a N and S and youd have a 50/50 chance of the chips lining up correctly to stick or repel.

VORP 09-14-2007 01:12 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
It sounds like the Borg chips are like Bay 101 chips. I [censored] hate those things.

Pscam10 09-14-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
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There's a slight concave on each side of the chips which creates an air vacumm when they're stacked one over the other. This makes them slightly stick. I've cracked one in half and there is no magnet in it.

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This is the exact reason. I've had a couple of conversations with dealers I know and the floor at the Borg and this was confirmed. I've also broke one open and their's a metal slug in the middle, but not a magnet.

The chips do not repel from each other. Also, magnetic chips would never stay stacked side by side (already been stated)

chillrob 09-16-2007 02:38 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
Anything that has metal in it can become slightly magnetic at times.

Poshua 09-16-2007 03:42 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
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Anything that has metal in it can become slightly magnetic at times.

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That might be true, but it's not related to why the Borgata chips stick together.

chillrob 09-16-2007 03:50 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
I always thought that was why, but of course I don't know for sure. They do stick together more when you rub them together, I thought it was static electicity causing magnetism in the metal. The same thing happens with the chips at some rooms in California where I have played. I have never noticed the chips being concave, but I haven't really looked at them that closely.

Poshua 09-16-2007 04:29 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
You can magnetize a piece of iron (or nickel or cobalt) by rubbing another piece of iron against it, but only if (1) one of the pieces of metal is already a permanent magnet, and (2) you rub the other piece over it consistently in the same direction, which is what causes the molecules to align in the same direction and therefore become magnetized. Even if these conditions were met, I suspect the plastic coating around the slugs would interfere.

Finally, there's no clear business purpose for having magnetic chips, and there's a good business reason not to have them: people carry them in their pockets, near their wallets. If the chips were magnetic, they would demagnetize people's room keys and credit cards.

chillrob 09-16-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
Just to clarify, I certainly was never saying I thought the Borgata chips had magnets in them. I did think that the reason they sometimes stuck together was because the metal inside them occasionally got slightly magnetic, but I could be wrong about that.

NYTyler 09-16-2007 10:07 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
hey at least they don't get dirty...look at the Taj's chips...they are disgusting.

BBMW 09-16-2007 10:13 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
It could be part of some sort of anti-counterfeitting measure, short of full RFID.

frommagio 09-16-2007 10:53 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
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Just to clarify, I certainly was never saying I thought the Borgata chips had magnets in them. I did think that the reason they sometimes stuck together was because the metal inside them occasionally got slightly magnetic, but I could be wrong about that.

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As others have noted, there are no magnets.

It's purely a suction effect caused by the materials (a plastic molding) and the perfectly uniform super-flat precision in the production of these high-quality Bud Jones chips. The chips are not concave, but some have slightly recessed inlays - which could also contribute. The Bud Jones chips are virtually indestructible, they clean up very easily, and they stack very well.

Some view the suction of these latest version chips (V7, I believe) as a downside. I personally agree. Earlier versions of BJ chips, including the coin-in-center chips, had the stability and quality but without the suction. I have several sets of the coin-in-center BJ chips; they play like a dream.

There's another website where poker CHIP enthusiasts TALK about poker chips - probably not allowed to mention it here, google it.

*TT* 09-16-2007 11:23 PM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
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There's another website where poker CHIP enthusiasts TALK about poker chips - probably not allowed to mention it here, google it.

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1) Chips are discussed in Home Poker, on this forum.

2) Your allowed to post the link, what makes you think its not ok? As long as your not spamming for your own company its fine.

Dima2000123 09-17-2007 08:30 AM

Re: Borgata like poker chips???
 
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The Bud Jones chips are virtually indestructible, they clean up very easily, and they stack very well.


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In my experience, I strongly disagree with first and last statement. Borgata chips are far from indestructible, I've seen plenty of broken chips resting in the chip racks, or had plenty of chips with cracked casing that were going to break completely eventually. I've never seen any other casino's chips to be broken.

Those chips are also not particularly easy to stack, compared to clay chips. They never collapsed on me, but they teeter on the edge a lot more than typical clay chips.


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