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Gesangsverein 11-21-2007 02:10 PM

[NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
No special reads on villain but he seemed solid so far.
How do you think about my line?
Who would play this hand different? Would be nice to hear how and why.

Thank you.


Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $18.57
SB: $55.47
Hero (BB): $94.68
UTG: $107.32
CO: $42.19

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, UTG calls $5, SB calls $5

Flop: ($21) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, UTG calls $15, SB folds

Turn: ($51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, UTG calls $30

River: ($111) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $55.32 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $42.68 and is All-In

Results: $196.36 Pot

seano34 11-21-2007 02:29 PM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
I raise more pf after the SB calls.

I bet more like 50 on the turn. If he calls the turn its a tricky spot.

I think check/call is better than leading out as it could induce a bluff bet all in. If you lead out an underpair is not likely to call but AA/quads/FH will.

WhiteWolf 11-21-2007 02:29 PM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
On the river, stick it in yourself. There's a lot of hands he'll call with that he would much rather check behind, and you're only inducing bluffs from donkeys who don't understand you're not folding any legit hand with those pot odds.

Gesangsverein 11-21-2007 02:44 PM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
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I bet more like 50 on the turn. If he calls the turn its a tricky spot.

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If I do as you told, there will be nothing left that makes the spot tricky!
50$ on the turn would leave me with ~20$ =&gt; what`s tricky with a pot of 160$ and 20 dollar left in front of you ?!

seano34 11-21-2007 03:15 PM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
Lol good point should have looked at stack sizes more closely

Gesangsverein 11-22-2007 09:02 AM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
Thanks for your replies so far.
Any other thoughts ?

infinity235 11-22-2007 09:09 AM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
I put in around $9 preflop... Making it 7.50 to go is a pot-sized raise, but as we got two people who would like to stick around, we wanna get in more money preflop.

As said before, potting the turn on this board, which is most likely to have missed your opponents, effectively eliminates your river decision. When you bet the turn, you already committed to your hand by putting in more than half of your stack, so getting more money in early makes your life much, much easier.

ama0330 11-22-2007 09:09 AM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
I think you have played this near perfectly, your bet sizing is excellent. The only difference for me is that I would push the river because I dont want him to check behind with QQ.

PatBateman 11-22-2007 09:23 AM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
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I think you have played this near perfectly, your bet sizing is excellent. The only difference for me is that I would push the river because I dont want him to check behind with QQ.

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what he said.

munkey 11-22-2007 09:35 AM

Re: [NL50] KK - deep and against UTG raise => linecheck plz
 
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I think you have played this near perfectly, your bet sizing is excellent. The only difference for me is that I would push the river because I dont want him to check behind with QQ.

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what he said.

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QFT can't seen anything wrong here except river - if vilian will only stack off with strong hands deep then a case for a different line may be made but I like how you got him committed on every street and with 1/2 PSB by river.


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