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BingBangBoom 11-21-2007 11:19 PM

QQ facing agression...now what?
 
Villan is 15/11.5/3.6 No specific reads


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($208.60)
BB ($124.20)
Hero ($154.35)
MP ($36.70)
CO ($175.25)
Button ($114.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($44.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $28</font>

What is best move on turn facing his lead...considering villans 125bb stack I feel turn and/or river could get sticky.

Claunchy 11-21-2007 11:27 PM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
His range is soooo narrow here, but I just can't see what he could have here that you beat other than a total bluff (AJ seems like a stretch imo). I guess I'd fold the turn, but I don't hate stacking off.

Ranma4703 11-21-2007 11:32 PM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
Your image? Recent pots you have played with villain?
He is pretty tight and aggressive, but there are no draws for him to be getting aggressive with, so your hand is a bluff catcher. His turn bet is setting him up to push the river, which scares me. There are hands that you are ahead of, but most of them rely on the opponent being awful, so I think a fold is fine here.

BingBangBoom 11-21-2007 11:36 PM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
Im not too sure as to my image i had been playing 15/13/5.5 over 250 hands for the sessin but had played 150 hands with villan. I think my image was prob pretty solid, not getting caught in any bluffs or anything and showing down winning hands for the most part.

cs3 11-21-2007 11:36 PM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
i think you can fold turn. this guy is a nit. hes not double barreling 45s here.
maybe calling is ok, (i would be folding to a river shove if i did call tho), but i really dont like shoving this turn. wtf is he ever gonna call you with?

DONT PAY OFF THE NITS!

Ranma4703 11-21-2007 11:38 PM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Im not too sure as to my image i had been playing 15/13/5.5 over 250 hands for the sessin but had played 150 hands with villan. I think my image was prob pretty solid, not getting caught in any bluffs or anything and showing down winning hands for the most part.

[/ QUOTE ]
Then you have your answer - fold. Unless villain is a genius at poker, and knows you have 1 pair here always, and that you will fold it to aggression, you are way behind. I have lost way too much money at poker thinking my opponents are smart to put him on that, so just fold.

bruin 11-22-2007 12:00 AM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
does anyone think villain can have AJ here?

cs3 11-22-2007 12:02 AM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
not likely. i think a nit has a set more often than AJ tbh

Paul Thomson 11-22-2007 12:06 AM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
The 3 is actually a good card for us. Do you think he calls with JJ preflop? If not, then I'd at least call a turn bet and fold to a river shove. But I don't know if that's great, since he might value-shove AJ on the river.

Why is everyone discounting AJ?

Claunchy 11-22-2007 12:07 AM

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 
Yeah, nits don't typically a) call preflop here with AJ (maybe if it's suited), or b) go all ape-[censored] postflop with TPTK against a fellow nit.


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