What is the status on what is allowed in location fields?
 

Coaching was recently removed from my old Location which said something along the lines of "Coaching/Blogging in BsAs".

Yet, MDMA's location is listed as simply "Coaching." and has been like that for quite some time as far as I can remember.

Is something like this allowed or not? If not, why is it not applied equally?

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First, I doubt if any mod reads every Loc text, so there are probably dozens of comments that might be removed if they are spotted. Maybe we could use this as a grassers' thread?

Second, I suspect that different mods have slightly different takes on what is or is not allowed. There are just too many different possibilities to have a totally anchored-down rule.

In my own case, I work on the basic general principle that the Loc text should not "advertise", specifically, and it should not direct other readers to the person's Profile. Therefore, I have no problem with "Coaching"**, or "Blogging", but I would delete things like "blogspot.degen", "PM me for rates", and "T$ for sale".

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Edit/MH: ** One of my friendly and helpful colleagues has told me I am wrong in allowing "Coaching". This is not acceptable. My apologies.

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"PM me for rates"

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What if this one has nothing to do with coaching?

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"PM me for rates"

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What if this one has nothing to do with coaching?

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lol.

So... is it okay to put coaching back into my location or not? I don't want to do it then somehow get magically ban-hammered again for something that wasn't clear.

Edit: I've changed my location to something I might use as an example. Is this okay?

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Sorry, Met. I have had to ban you.

Please read my edit above. Feel free to comment when you get back in three days.

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Ok, so coaching isn't allowed. That's fine just want to that be made clear then. It'd be helpful if mods would PM you and let you know when they edit your profile like that though. It took me a while to even realize it had been changed and I thought for a second I was crazy until realizing someone must have done it.

If I'm not allowed to do it though, I'm definitely not going to let others when I see it. Should I be PM'ing Mat or Ryan or someone like you, Mike? Or post them in a thread here?

FWIW, I don't think MDMA is defying rules on purpose, but probably like me he wasn't entirely clear on what the rule was. Again, why a PM when things are edited would be nice.

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met,

i recommend "bloaching."

or "being awesome. duh."

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lol.

So... is it okay to put coaching back into my location or not? I don't want to do it then somehow get magically ban-hammered again for something that wasn't clear.

Edit: I've changed my location to something I might use as an example. Is this okay?

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since we have sponsored coaching forums, saying "coaching" is no longer acceptable.

if 2+2 hosted member's blogs, then blogging would also not be acceptable. since 2+2 does not offer that service, we are allowing blogging.

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lol.

So... is it okay to put coaching back into my location or not? I don't want to do it then somehow get magically ban-hammered again for something that wasn't clear.

Edit: I've changed my location to something I might use as an example. Is this okay?

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since we have sponsored coaching forums, saying "coaching" is no longer acceptable.

if 2+2 hosted member's blogs, then blogging would also not be acceptable. since 2+2 does not offer that service, we are allowing blogging.

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Thanks durron, that makes more sense than any other reason given. Are things like LeggoPoker and Cardrunners in avatars/locations still okay then?

I see how these rules can get confusing fast.

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Thanks durron, that makes more sense than any other reason given. Are things like LeggoPoker and Cardrunners in avatars/locations still okay then?


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this is actually a current hot topic of debate, and no final decision has been made yet

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I see how these rules can get confusing fast.

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agreed

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Ok, so coaching isn't allowed. That's fine just want to that be made clear then. It'd be helpful if mods would PM you and let you know when they edit your profile like that though. It took me a while to even realize it had been changed and I thought for a second I was crazy until realizing someone must have done it.

If I'm not allowed to do it though, I'm definitely not going to let others when I see it. Should I be PM'ing Mat or Ryan or someone like you, Mike? Or post them in a thread here?

FWIW, I don't think MDMA is defying rules on purpose, but probably like me he wasn't entirely clear on what the rule was. Again, why a PM when things are edited would be nice.

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We will take your suggestion about PMing under advisement. Thank you.

If you PM an active mod of the forum in which you happen to see an irregular Loc text, that would probably be best, by spreading the workload around a bit. If you disagree with his decision, ask him to refer to an Admin.

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Are things like LeggoPoker and Cardrunners in avatars/locations still okay then?


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this is actually a current hot topic of debate, and no final decision has been made yet


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In fact, I would actually recommend starting a new thread on the subject and PMing the thread URL to Mat.

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We will take your suggestion about PMing under advisement. Thank you.

If you PM the mod of the forum in which you happen to see an irregular Loc text, that would probably be best, by spreading the workload around a bit.

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This is the main problem with sending PMs about problem Loc: fields.

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We will take your suggestion about PMing under advisement. Thank you.

If you PM the mod of the forum in which you happen to see an irregular Loc text, that would probably be best, by spreading the workload around a bit.


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Another friendly and helpful colleague has told me I'm wrong yet again.

I'll get my coat.

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We will take your suggestion about PMing under advisement. Thank you.

If you PM the mod of the forum in which you happen to see an irregular Loc text, that would probably be best, by spreading the workload around a bit.


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Another friendly and helpful colleague has told me I'm wrong yet again.

I'll get my coat.

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Lol, what are you wrong about now?

I shouldn't be PM'ing the mod of the forum it is in?

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since we have sponsored coaching forums, saying "coaching" is no longer acceptable.


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lolololol.

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I'll get my coat.

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lol

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since we have sponsored coaching forums, saying "coaching" is no longer acceptable.


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lolololol.

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i left out the words "in loc field"

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We will take your suggestion about PMing under advisement. Thank you.

If you PM the mod of the forum in which you happen to see an irregular Loc text, that would probably be best, by spreading the workload around a bit.


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Another friendly and helpful colleague has told me I'm wrong yet again.

I'll get my coat.

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Lol, what are you wrong about now?

I shouldn't be PM'ing the mod of the forum it is in?

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I have found out that I have absolutely no idea what you or anyone else should do about anything. Try PMing durron597 to see what he thinks you should do with all of your snitches. I am certain he knows far better than me and he is always clear and helpful with his responses.

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Re: What is the status on what is allowed in location fields?
 

Since the location field is off limits, anyone wanting to get free advertising for their coaching services can use this avatar I made:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1098/coachnd5.gif

You can thank me by sending me 10% of the revenue it generates.

Re: What is the status on what is allowed in location fields?
 

durron,

Haven isn't even a real mod is he? I'll ask the professionals. Who do I PM with my location snitching? Why is MDMA's location unchanged? Do these pants make me look fat?

Affectionately Yours,

Met

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Since the location field is off limits, anyone wanting to get free advertising for their coaching services can use this avatar I made:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1098/coachnd5.gif

You can thank me by sending me 10% of the revenue it generates.

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pvn,

I would use this in a second as a joke if I didn't think it'd get me banned.

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I have found out that I have absolutely no idea what you or anyone else should do about anything. Try PMing durron597 to see what he thinks you should do with all of your snitches. I am certain he knows far better than me and he is always clear and helpful with his responses.

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what's with the haterade, I was agreeing with you

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Since the location field is off limits, anyone wanting to get free advertising for their coaching services can use this avatar I made:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1098/coachnd5.gif

You can thank me by sending me 10% of the revenue it generates.

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this is why this is a hot topic in the mod forum

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Since the location field is off limits, anyone wanting to get free advertising for their coaching services can use this avatar I made:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1098/coachnd5.gif

You can thank me by sending me 10% of the revenue it generates.

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this is why this is a hot topic in the mod forum

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So you are saying that this avatar is currently ok until we are told otherwise? Please confirm/deny. Thanks.

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So you are saying that this avatar is currently ok until we are told otherwise? Please confirm/deny. Thanks.

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Please use some common sense.

There will be an official answer soon. Until now, go with the assumption that a super blatant (and annoying) avatar like that is wrong, in the meantime a more borderline avatar with only the letters "LP" (wtf does LP mean?) still needs to have a Red decision made.

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just by using simple logic it's pretty clear that it wouldn't be ok. just ask yourself a few key questions:

1) why is "coaching!! PM me!!" not allowed in location field?

answer: 2+2 has decided that is = free advertising and they don't allow it

2) is the avatar conveying the same message as "coaching! PM me!!" in the location field?

answer: yes, even more so actually

therefore the avatar is not allowed

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MC Chris,

That kind of common sense is a breath of fresh air. IMO they should give you mod forum access to help sort this out more quickly.

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Since the location field is off limits, anyone wanting to get free advertising for their coaching services can use this avatar I made:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1098/coachnd5.gif

You can thank me by sending me 10% of the revenue it generates.

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this is why this is a hot topic in the mod forum

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So you are saying that this avatar is currently ok until we are told otherwise? Please deny. Thanks.

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fyp

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MC Chris,

That kind of common sense is a breath of fresh air. IMO they should give you mod forum access to help sort this out more quickly.

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Note:

My statements in this thread reflect current policy, not "durron597 the poster"'s opinions

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just by using simple logic it's pretty clear that it wouldn't be ok. just ask yourself a few key questions:

1) why is "coaching!! PM me!!" not allowed in location field?

answer: 2+2 has decided that is = free advertising and they don't allow it

2) is the avatar conveying the same message as "coaching! PM me!!" in the location field?

answer: yes, even more so actually

therefore the avatar is not allowed

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It should be pretty obvious I was joking. Apparently it wasn't.

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just by using simple logic it's pretty clear that it wouldn't be ok. just ask yourself a few key questions:

1) why is "coaching!! PM me!!" not allowed in location field?

answer: 2+2 has decided that is = free advertising and they don't allow it

2) is the avatar conveying the same message as "coaching! PM me!!" in the location field?

answer: yes, even more so actually

therefore the avatar is not allowed

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It should be pretty obvious I was joking. Apparently it wasn't.

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sorry, it wasn't obvious.

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racist. ban.

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Thanks durron, that makes more sense than any other reason given. Are things like LeggoPoker and Cardrunners in avatars/locations still okay then?


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OFFICIAL MOD FORUM PERSPECTIVE

this is actually a current hot topic of debate, and no final decision has been made yet

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I see how these rules can get confusing fast.

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agreed

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Hey just an FYI.

I believe there was one CR avatar up from one of our tech guys. I've told him to take it down so I believe we should be in compliance with the rules (that may or may not exist [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ).

I do agree that something should be done about the amount of spamming done by coaches/training sites. People always point to CardRunners about this stuff, but we have always tried to avoid using avatars, loc:, and anything else to spam our product. People tend to confuse us with spammers because there is a lot of legitimate discussion about our site and the people involved (blogs, videos, etc.) We do pay for ads on 2p2, fwiw.

tc

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I do agree that something should be done about the amount of spamming done by coaches/training sites. People always point to CardRunners about this stuff, but we have always tried to avoid using avatars, loc:, and anything else to spam our product. People tend to confuse us with spammers because there is a lot of legitimate discussion about our site and the people involved (blogs, videos, etc.) We do pay for ads on 2p2, fwiw.

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when I said that I was referring more to LeggoPoker and not really CardRunners, sorry, I should have made that clear.

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The word has come down: LegoPoker avatars are toast.

Also, I notice that Durron is approaching Post 30k. I know POG posts are rubles, but there are a lot of real posts in there too.

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The word has come down: LegoPoker avatars are toast.

Also, I notice that Durron is approaching Post 30k. I know POG posts are rubles, but there are a lot of real posts in there too.

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Thoughts on instituting a LeggoRoll to replace the Rickroll? Problematic?

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pvn,

I would use this in a second as a joke if I didn't think it'd get me banned.

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this type of infraction shouldn't be a ban, it should be changed back and a PM should be sent to you explaining why. Moderators are here to help guide users first, punish users last. If however you (or any other user) continued to break the rule then its ban worthy.

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TT,

I think the problem is most mods don't PM people when they do stuff like that. If they did, this thread probably wouldn't have been created.

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Metetron, are you coaching again these days?