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11-15-2007 08:56 AM

set against Tag on wet board.
 
I know my turn betsize sucked. villain is TAG 18/15/5 over a big sample. He probably has me around 22/19/4. Comments on all streets appreciated.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($46.60)
MP ($20.85)
Button ($9.80)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($55.75)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($63.45)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, BB calls $2, MP folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($6) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls $8.

River: ($28) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $23</font>, Hero calls $23.

Final Pot: $74

corsakh 11-15-2007 09:00 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
If you are calling turn with the intention to stack off on any non heart river, you should push turn.

xoom 11-15-2007 09:03 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
Just push AI on the turn. He could easily have a combo-draw or two pair here. If he turned the straight with 67 that's just bad luck, because he will probably play combo-draws and two pair the same on the turn.

I'm not sure if I like the call on the river. 34cc got there, 8cXc got there, 67 had you on the turn. Bet/fold is better here imo. Make a blocking bet of about 14.

derosnec 11-15-2007 11:02 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
on the turn, i put his range: 67, 98, 22 (people do slowplay 22 on drawy flops alot). he's raising 88 pf, as well as overpairs. he's not playing A8/A9, etc this way. doubt he raised you with a flush draw on turn.

here's the thing though: there are more combos of 67 than 22 and 98 combined.

Brian O'Nolan 11-15-2007 11:08 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
How do you run 22/19 and not raise that [censored] up pf? This hand is soooo much easier if you'd done that. As played, turn sucks... I tend to shove if you think villain can be raising with JhTh, 4c3c, etc, but it is a limped pot... I would expect 67 to raise the turn more but you should have a decent read on what that raise size means from villain. As for calling the river... would he valuebet a straight here? The only hand I can really see you beating is missed hearts, but there are a lot more heart flush draws that villain would get there with than club draws so I think I like the river check/call as played, obv. depending somewhat on villian's river tendencies.

EMc 11-15-2007 11:11 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
I like your line a lot better if you were the 18/15 and he teh 22/19.

That said he has 2 pair+ here almost always. Im not sure if hes playing for stacks on the turn so your line isnt that bad. As played on the river it needs to be a check/shobe/

traz 11-15-2007 11:12 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
shove turn before a scarecard falls

skibbel 11-15-2007 11:35 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
I don't like to slowplay at that turn, so many crappy rivers.

I definitly 3-bet the turn.

KCrow 11-15-2007 11:38 AM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
I'd raise pf. As played bet more on the turn and shove to the raise.

sightless 11-15-2007 12:37 PM

Re: set against Tag on wet board.
 
holy cow 3bet that turn man and get it all in


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