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Ansky 11-21-2007 09:05 PM

200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
I have about 10k, tsarrast is directly to my right and covers. He had 20k earlier and I doubled up off of him in a rr pot when i rr QT, flop top pair and get it in vs a semi bluff. Maybe he is a little steaming but i really doubt it.It's pretty early in my session so no more of a dynamic than that. He prob thinks i squeeze more than most but not a huge amount or anything i dont think.

313OG opens to 175 in the HJ, tsarrast flat calls, I repop to ~775 from the button, 313 folds, tsar 4bets to ~2700.

I...

oh, edit, I have AKs

2nd edit: 313 has 5k.

Praetor 11-21-2007 09:06 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
I dont know villain, but I would shove

Ship Ship McGipp 11-21-2007 09:13 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
man i always get it in here...

god the back raise tilts me, but this seems like a good spot for it

TheFuGu 11-21-2007 09:23 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
It looks like you are needing some justification for shoving here....given your description this is standard...so he has KK suck it up...

Ansky 11-21-2007 09:25 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
why is it standard? do you play ftp/stars 25/50?

DLizzle 11-21-2007 09:49 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
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man i always get it in here...


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I feel like I get it in bad too often in these spots sometimes though, but I don't really know what else to do. I don't think either calling or folding are terrible though. In fact, I know a lot of people will hate it but I kinda like flatting this raise. I would consider flat calling pre (not 3betting) often as well.

Stinger88 11-21-2007 09:52 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
People just always tend to have it here. I think I fold.

dd323 11-21-2007 10:29 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
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People just always tend to have it here. I think I fold.

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seriously, since I've started seeing back raises happen more often this month at 25/50 and 10/20, I have never seen a bluff, and always gotten it in bad against them. Its the new limp/rr.

Lefort 11-21-2007 10:32 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
I fold... it scares the hell out of me that he made it 2700 as opposed to 2000-2300ish..

spino1i 11-21-2007 11:04 PM

Re: 200bb preflop decision? 25/50
 
Hmm tough.. Id prolly push but im wondering if this spewing and he just shows up with AA/KK here too often.


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