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MegaMarc 11-24-2007 08:52 PM

Stars 12/180 5handed. Is my shove ok?
 
Villain was raising this spot a lot lately. Villain seemed pretty decent.

Is this shove ok?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP (t68680)
Button (t80527)
Hero (t43954)
BB (t52769)
UTG (t24070)

Preflop: Hero is SB with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/5d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ad.gif.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]MP raises to t18000</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t43354</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, MP calls t25354.

Flop: (t88508) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/td.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8s.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>

Turn: (t88508) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qs.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>

River: (t88508) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2d.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t88508

StepBangin 11-24-2007 10:05 PM

Re: Stars 12/180 5handed. Is my shove ok?
 
If he is raising a lot from that position then yes I like it.

If you dont have a good read on him or if he isnt raising a lot then no I don't like it.

StepBangin 11-24-2007 10:05 PM

Re: Stars 12/180 5handed. Is my shove ok?
 
Im gonna assume he had KQ and beat you.

erc007 11-25-2007 01:36 AM

Re: Stars 12/180 5handed. Is my shove ok?
 
I'd fold this pretty fast. MP has ~10BBs, so he's prob not opening any hands that u dominate here. U also have 0 FE. This is a hand that (with 7BBs) u def want to open-shove 5 handed from any pos. U could shove over a button raise as well, but your hand needs some FE to shove over a raise, even shorthanded.

shaundeeb 11-25-2007 05:48 AM

Re: Stars 12/180 5handed. Is my shove ok?
 
SNG&gt;shoving pre.

MegaMarc 11-25-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Stars 12/180 5handed. Is my shove ok?
 
At the time I shoved I was pretty happy with it. However, looking back at it makes me realize I didn't had any FE.
But there was a slight chance I had him dominated and he would have a KQ type of hand.

Obvious he had AT and had me drawing almost dead on the flop.

starchyy 11-25-2007 12:53 PM

Re: Stars 12/180 5handed. Is my shove ok?
 
I don't like the shove here since you basically have no fold equaity. With this hand, you will be lucky to be racing. If you want to make this play with a bigger stack thinking he is on a steal and you want to re-steal and not see a flop, then I like the play. In this situation, your raise is basically a min raise and won't get him to fold anything he is opening with really. I don't like shoving weak aces in this spot, would rather do it with KQ, or something less likely to be dominated.


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