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Kirkrrr 02-06-2007 05:40 AM

2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $413.80
Hero: $404.30
CO: $1718
Button: $759.20
SB: $820
BB: $644.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($60, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $45</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($195, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $144</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($627, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $264</font>, SB folds, Hero..?


How often should I be calling/folding here? 100% of the time? 90%? Thoughts on rest of hand would be interesting to hear as well.

Kirk

02-06-2007 07:04 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
in omaha 2 pair is like never good and he's betting 2/3 of a buyin into a multiway pot making me believe he has a better hand

obv a read would help

Kirkrrr 02-06-2007 07:37 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
[ QUOTE ]
in omaha 2 pair is like never good and he's betting 2/3 of a buyin into a multiway pot making me believe he has a better hand

obv a read would help

[/ QUOTE ]

lol I just got done responding to one of your posts in HSNL. Anyway, no real reads on this guy stuck out, but all these [censored] guys will chase draws all day. Also, while I understand that 2pr is far from the nuts, considering the action so far in this hand I was fairly comfortable with it, esp on just one buy in.

Kirk

wazz 02-06-2007 07:37 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
You're getting a little better than 4-1 but it looks to me like button has made his straight on the river. Though, if you've previously paid off in similar spots, he could easily be value-betting top two pair or just a set, though those look unlikely from the way they've been played.

beset 02-06-2007 07:54 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
who is the villain

iggymcfly 02-06-2007 10:09 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
You should just fold here. 100% of the time unless you have a really strong read. The 5 is a really obvious draw card, and it was a three-way pot. Unless one of your opponents is bad enough to draw to a non-nut flush here, somebody has to be on the wrap.

cmyr 02-06-2007 10:17 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
yeah, I'd let it go without a thought multiway. Can't say anything very useful without a read, though.

guilt_trip 02-06-2007 11:56 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
This is a fold on every day of the week and twice on Sundays

holdme 02-06-2007 11:56 AM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
I think the fact that it is multiway makes it a fold. He could be betting a bunch of hands that beat you. I guess your only hope is a brave bluff with a flush draw.

CrushinFelt 02-06-2007 12:41 PM

Re: 2/4, Getting 10,000:1 on the river, worth calling?
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeah, I'd let it go without a thought multiway . Can't say anything very useful without a read, though.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed, this is either value town with the nuts or a small straight. People don't usually like to give 4:1 to the aggressor on a bluff (unless you're being really nitty on the river)


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