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jk3a 10-24-2007 08:32 PM

Is This Spot Difficult?
 
Villain is 70/3 thru small sample. His stack is pretty big fwiw.

PokerStars Game #12826664415: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/10/24 - 20:19:46 (ET)
Table 'Lonnrot III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Double66 ($19.35 in chips)
Seat 2: DyersEve88 ($92.40 in chips)
Seat 3: yuestud ($523.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Sodom ($20 in chips)
Seat 5: jk3a ($109.40 in chips)
Seat 6: raisemaster ($55.70 in chips)
yuestud: posts small blind $0.50
Sodom: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jk3a [3h 7c Ac As]
jk3a: raises $2.50 to $3.50
raisemaster: folds
Double66: folds
DyersEve88: calls $3.50
yuestud: calls $3
Sodom: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 6h Ad]
yuestud: checks
jk3a: bets $9
DyersEve88: folds
yuestud: calls $9
*** TURN *** [Js 6h Ad] [7d]
yuestud: checks
jk3a: bets $24
yuestud: calls $24
*** RIVER *** [Js 6h Ad 7d] [9c]
yuestud: bets $74.50

crashwhips 10-24-2007 08:42 PM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
Difficult spot for sure. He could easily be bluffing a hand like TQKx two diamonds, but then again he could have something like 8TQK or 68TA. I think I'd probably make a crying call here, though I wouldn't fault a fold.

JSmith2007 10-24-2007 08:45 PM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
To begin with, I'm raising that flop. No flush draws are possible and the only straight possible if QK (ten) so you have to assume you're good here, add volume to the pot. What can he be betting the flop with other than something like A6 or AJ? I don't think he's going to be betting anything other than that or KQ. The straight that becomes possible is 85xx and 108xx. He'd have to have 85AJ or 108AJ etc etc. to be betting that flop IMO.

I make a call here and probably regret it when the cards are flipped, but it's very possible that he has QK/two pair.

jk3a 10-24-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
I bet the flop

Flip-Flop 10-24-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
Few possibilities:

- He was drawing and got there.
- From his stats and stack I assume that he`s been gambling a lot in this session and been running extremely good.
So maybe he got co*ky here and tried to push you of top-two by representing a str8 or somethin`.
Sometimes, when people run good they start feeling invincible.

As much as it sucks to dump AAA I`d fold most of the time in similar situations but there is a chance that a good read might find me a call sometimes.


Bump_Bailey 10-24-2007 09:39 PM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
call, KQT8 is the only hand that makes sense here that beats you. I have only been playing Omaha for a few weeks but have noticed that the call, call, donk line is often a bluff or someone slow playing middle set.

2handed 10-24-2007 11:33 PM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Few possibilities:

- He was drawing and got there.
- From his stats and stack I assume that he`s been gambling a lot in this session and been running extremely good.
So maybe he got co*ky here and tried to push you of top-two by representing a str8 or somethin`.
Sometimes, when people run good they start feeling invincible.

As much as it sucks to dump AAA I`d fold most of the time in similar situations but there is a chance that a good read might find me a call sometimes.



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this is good advice

JasonP530 10-25-2007 02:00 AM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
His most likely hand is AT8 or A85 that peeled the flop with top pair because he plays 70% of the hands and calls most flops with anything. His VPIP is 70%, there is no way you should give him the best possible wrap on the flop(KQT8) or anything close. That being said, it is likely he has it, since loose passive players tend not to wake up on the river like this without a very good hand and there isnt even a busted flush draw for him to bluff. Its been a while since I've played PLO, but I tend to call this...

sqwisssssss 10-25-2007 02:59 AM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
jesus christ what the hell hand does this jackass have????

CALL.

if he has it then he got stupid lucky. i never fold to people who get stupid lucky like that. i got to see the hand and i aint convinced he has it. he's sittin on a fat stack, feelin good and could very well be making a play here.......like he probably did on other hands too.

thisnamedoesntfi 10-25-2007 04:43 AM

Re: Is This Spot Difficult?
 
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jesus christ what the hell hand does this jackass have????

CALL.

if he has it then he got stupid lucky. i never fold to people who get stupid lucky like that. i got to see the hand and i aint convinced he has it. he's sittin on a fat stack, feelin good and could very well be making a play here.......like he probably did on other hands too.

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