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WarDekar 03-06-2007 01:28 AM

What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
1st level of $55+R+A tonight. 12 minutes in, no reads:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t2970)
CO (t1540)
Button (t2390)
SB (t2980)
Hero (t2970)
UTG (t3830)
UTG+1 (t1470)
MP1 (t1390)
MP2 (t3000)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t20, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t160</font>, UTG calls t140, MP2 calls t140, Button calls t140, SB folds.

Flop: (t660) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t320</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t3560</font>, MP2 folds, Button folds, Hero ???

miw210 03-06-2007 01:32 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
I don't think I would bet the flop with 3 players left to act behind me.

As played... easy fold, no?

beenben 03-06-2007 01:35 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
you should have some kind of a read - how'd he lose 600 chips in 12 hands? chasing? played one hand and folded to a raise? of course reads are kind of useless in a rebuy period could be anything from 45 63 66 33 Qx. slow played AQ or overpairs are unliikely. since you're posting this, I'm guessing 45.

WarDekar 03-06-2007 01:40 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
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I don't think I would bet the flop with 3 players left to act behind me.

As played... easy fold, no?

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With a flop like this (no draws really) I don't mind c-betting to just try and take it. I bet small enough to where I know where I stand if the hand has to continue.

As it is he way overpushed here and I was really thrown by what he might have.

WarDekar 03-06-2007 01:41 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
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you should have some kind of a read - how'd he lose 600 chips in 12 hands? chasing? played one hand and folded to a raise? of course reads are kind of useless in a rebuy period could be anything from 45 63 66 33 Qx. slow played AQ or overpairs are unliikely. since you're posting this, I'm guessing 45.

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He had gained chips previously. He gained them on a hand where he raised AQ UTG+1 when he put a small stack all-in on KTx board and hit an A against JJ. He lost a little back on the previous hand when he limped K5 UTG+1 and called some small bets to the river when he flopped top pair.

beenben 03-06-2007 01:50 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
OK, so there is evidence that he is a donkey. 1) he did not rebuy at the start 2) he limped K5 UTG and stayed to the river with TPNK (top pair, no kicker) 3) it's a rebuy and most everybody is a little bit of donkey in a rebuy period 4) he's playing a lot of hands

this info reinforces my guesses. he stayed on some ridiculous starting cards and hit something better than your jacks.

WarDekar 03-06-2007 01:58 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
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OK, so there is evidence that he is a donkey. 1) he did not rebuy at the start 2) he limped K5 UTG and stayed to the river with TPNK (top pair, no kicker) 3) it's a rebuy and most everybody is a little bit of donkey in a rebuy period 4) he's playing a lot of hands

this info reinforces my guesses. he stayed on some ridiculous starting cards and hit something better than your jacks.

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Actually no he DID rebuy, sorry I didn't make that clear. He knocked out a shorty (like 900 or something) with the AQ hand.

Given those 2 hands (only ones he'd shown, we're barely into the tourney), do you call this? Yes? No? Why or why not?

grafyx 03-06-2007 02:37 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
This looks like a really easy fold to me with this dry of a board and he check raised all in with 3 people left to act. The only possible draw is 45. I don't think he makes this play with TT or anything else you beat.

Bond18 03-06-2007 04:57 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
Fold. What are you beating that confidently shoves against that many players?

Soulman 03-06-2007 05:00 AM

Re: What does villain have? $55+R+A
 
Villain may be donking it up, but you're drawing to 2 odds a large amount of the time here. Fold.


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